Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.1.8 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #60 Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2004 03:01:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #60 1. Re: Contractor education (was: Production Triangle (Good, Fast, Cheap)) by Jerry Durand 2. Directv questions by CB 3. Re: wireless mics by CB 4. Re: wireless mics by "Mike Rock" 5. Re: Contractor education (was: Production Triangle (Good, Fast, Cheap)) by "Delbert Hall" 6. Re: Directv questions by usctd [at] columbia.sc 7. Re: wireless mics by Stuart Wheaton 8. SF Modestly Presents. . . . . by Shell Dalzell *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.0.20040703110841.026a7b80 [at] localhost> Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 11:49:32 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Contractor education (was: Production Triangle (Good, Fast, Cheap)) In-Reply-To: References:

At 11:52 AM 7/1/2004, you wrote: >I had this fight over and over when working on TV studio projects. I loved >the one where I came in after a manufacturer had given them all of the >BTU calculations and they put the heavier cooling load in the dimmer room >rather than into the studio! They had a meat locker for a dimmer room and >a too hot studio. (Almost as good as a distributor that gives a power >recommendation that is way too low for a studio.) I designed a couple of labs and production floors in semiconductor plants. The contractors there have the same problems: "You couldn't possibly need all that 3-phase power so we put in ten 20A, 120V single phase circuits for the whole floor." "You couldn't possibly need all that air conditioning, so we put in normal office building size units." "What do you mean by common ground? This all meets code, that's all you need." In a D.O.E. project I designed, the electricians insisted on using 12 gauge wire for ALL connections (sensors, switch inputs, 1W indicator lights, etc.). Then they complained that I hadn't given them enough room in the NEMA box for them. In a movie theater: first "You couldn't possibly need extra cooling in the booth, so you just have one vent tapped off the house system." after MUCH pleading and dragging of the money people into a sweltering booth we got a second air handler on the building...and they tied it into the house thermostat including HEAT in winter. When I left, the vent was taped over in winter and the door to the roof left open, summer was almost ok with extra fans. Even in our home: "That custom solar air handler doesn't look normal, so we will not bid on installing ductwork for you." That last one was probably the most puzzling, it took us quite some time to find an HVAC contractor that would bend sheet metal and install ducts for us. Even if I told them exactly what size and type to run, they wouldn't take the contract. I hate it when people complain about lack of work and you can't get them to take your money. ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886 fax: +1 408 356-4659 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040703131233.0182db08 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 13:12:33 From: CB Subject: Directv questions >Money...more money...money...more money..hmmmm Yeah, hmmmm.... If those are the deciding factors, you may end up miserably well off. Do the one that'll be the most fun and you won't need so much money! ; > Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20040703132353.0182db08 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 13:23:53 From: CB Subject: Re: wireless mics >Agree with your procedures, but what is this namby-pamby "re-attach the connector" stuff. Any well trained actor (I know, I know, an oxymoron) should be able to handle the cord with connector attached. With older actors, the deviated septum, usually a result of cast parties, either alone or with the cast, its an easy task. I usually remove it so I don't have to hear the whining. It's amazing, if you approach an actor with your needs, and recognize that he has needs, you get so much more co-operation. Its like I always said, sincerity will get you so far in this buisiness. One you can fake it, you're golden! Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000901c46141$b6296070$176e1745 [at] Spankythelovemachine> From: "Mike Rock" References: Subject: Re: wireless mics Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 16:07:12 -0500 > I usually remove it so I > don't have to hear the whining. If they do not put it back where it belongs I have no problem with going to get, but then I might not be so gentle when removing it. Most of the time they only foget once. Mike Rock ------------------------------ From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: Re: Contractor education (was: Production Triangle (Good, Fast, Cheap)) Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 19:21:39 -0400 Organization: ETSU Message-ID: <000b01c46154$7eae3630$6400a8c0 [at] delbert> In-Reply-To: This reminds of a story from my brother, who is an architect... Many years ago now he was working on a bank and had a problem with the asphalt paving contract. In the contract "required" that he inspect the site to ensure that the contractor had put down the required 4" of gravel BEFORE any paving was done. When he arrived at the site on the agreed upon date, the lot was paved. He called the contractor and told him that he had not met the requirements of the contract and would not be paid for the work. The contractor eventually tore up the asphalt and then repaved it after it had been inspected. If the architect specified the HVAC to be done a certain way and the contractor bid on it and won the bid, then you have every right for it to be done the way specified. Otherwise, it is fraud. If it is not specified the way you want it, well you are screwed. Make sure your architect gets it right. -Delbert ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1899.207.201.197.53.1088903056.squirrel [at] webmail.columbia.sc> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 21:04:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Directv questions From: usctd [at] columbia.sc Hear, hear!! That is the very reason I left Cirque to work at a university. I wanted work to mean something more than just a paycheck. Of course I do wish the pay cut had not been so severe!! -- Eric Rouse TD-University of SC, Columbia Freelance Foyboy > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > >>Money...more money...money...more money..hmmmm > > Yeah, hmmmm.... If those are the deciding factors, you may end up > miserably well off. Do the one that'll be the most fun and you won't need > so much money! ; > > Chris "Chris" Babbie > Location Sound > MON AZ > > Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates > negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <40E77C57.8050608 [at] fuse.net> Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 23:41:11 -0400 From: Stuart Wheaton Subject: Re: wireless mics References: In-Reply-To: CB wrote: > For those actors still under warranty, run the mic into > the back of the nasal cavity, and out through the mouth. Re-attach the > connector, wrap it in a condom and have the actor swallow it. Within 24 > hours you can connect it to the pack. Make sure you have the longest cable > that you can get your hands on. > A friend of mine, who's an MD in Occupational Medicine, and currently on a rotation with NIOSH here in town, laughed so hard she almost peed herself when I passed this on to her. But, she pointed out that passing a microphone cable through at least 4 valves in the GI tract voids the warranty as much as the hole behind the ear, which saves hundreds of feet of acid and chemical resistant wire. Stuart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 18:17:03 -1000 Subject: SF Modestly Presents. . . . . From: Shell Dalzell Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > Grumble, grumble, > grumble....mutiny, mutiny, mutiny.... > > Happy 4th, everybody! Blow things up safely.... > > Michael Finney > Thinkwell Design & Production > mfinney [at] thinkwelldesign.com =20 > http://www.thinkwelldesign.com =20 What's that? . . . . . French horns!!!! ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #60 ****************************