Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2) with PIPE id 4327287; Sun, 05 Sep 2004 03:01:00 -0700 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #123 Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 03:00:47 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-pre4 (2004-08-04) on prxy.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.0-pre4 X-Spam-Level: X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4a3 For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #123 1. Balloon Drops by bill schaffell 2. Balloon Drops by bill schaffell 3. Re: Cheseborough ratings by Richard Bakos 4. Re: Cheseborough ratings by Patrick McCreary 5. Re: Balloon Drops by FREDERICK W FISHER 6. Designer anniversaries and more by "RICHARD FINKELSTEIN" 7. Re: Cheseborough ratings by Patrick McCreary 8. Re: Designer anniversaries and more by John Bracewell 9. Re: prices by "Karl G. Ruling" 10. Re: Designer anniversaries and more by "Michael Eddy" 11. Re: Cheseborough ratings by Bsapsis [at] aol.com *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <5882150.1094306502682.JavaMail.root [at] rowlf.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 07:01:42 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: bill schaffell Subject: Balloon Drops ------------------------------ Message-ID: <17640664.1094306770218.JavaMail.root [at] rowlf.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 07:06:10 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: bill schaffell Subject: Balloon Drops I just want to thank New York Local 1 for doing a great job rigging my 100,000+ balloons and the the 70 streamer cannons we built into the stage. Despite cue changes that were actually happening during the final speech every balloon net opened and cannon fired. Bill Schaffell WJS Studios 909-986-2363 www.wjsStudios.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4139CD4E.9060308 [at] StudioOneSB.com> Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 09:12:30 -0500 From: Richard Bakos Organization: Studio One Inc. Subject: Re: Cheseborough ratings References: In-Reply-To: Bsapsis [at] aol.com wrote: >Standard, off the shelf, "cheeseboro" type clamps are not rated for anything. > They were designed to position pipes in a structure, not actually carry load. > > What do you call off the shelf clamps. The products from Kee Clamp, and Speed Rail from an industrial supply house are are rated. I would also hope that the scaffold clamps are rated. I sure would not want to be 30' up on scaffold built with no rated hardware. -- Richard Bakos President Studio One Inc. 25833 State Road 2 South Bend, In 46619-4736 VOICE 574-232-9084 FAX 574-232-2220 Rick [at] StudioOneSB.com www.StudioOnesb.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.1.20040904161402.019e0e70 [at] incoming.verizon.net> Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 16:16:26 -0400 From: Patrick McCreary Subject: Re: Cheseborough ratings In-Reply-To: References:

At 10:12 AM 9/4/2004, you wrote: >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > >Bsapsis [at] aol.com wrote: > >>Standard, off the shelf, "cheeseboro" type clamps are not rated for >>anything. They were designed to position pipes in a structure, not >>actually carry load. >> >What do you call off the shelf clamps. The products from Kee Clamp, and >Speed Rail from an industrial supply house are are rated. I would also >hope that the scaffold clamps are rated. I sure would not want to be 30' >up on scaffold built with no rated hardware. >-- > >Richard Bakos Kee Klamp and Holleander don't make cheeseboroughs - that is, they don't make the double-clamshell rigid or swivel clamps that most of us call a "Cheeseborough." Patrick G. Patrick McCreary Ass't. Professor - Technical Director Department of Theater and Dance Indiana University of Pennsylvania Indiana, PA 15701 (Office) 724-357-2644 (Home) 724-349-4309 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 15:16:32 -0500 From: FREDERICK W FISHER Subject: Re: Balloon Drops Message-id: <4e66084e1a7f.4e1a7f4e6608 [at] wiscmail.wisc.edu> How do you inflate 100,000+ balloons? How long does it take? How many hours? Do you do it on site or inflate them elsewhere and take bring them over to the venue. What do you fill them with? How much does a filled balloon weigh? What amount of cubic space does a filled balloon occupy? Are you ever tempted to include at least one water filled balloon in an order that size? Have you ever succumbed to that temptation? I'm being so nosy to get an idea what the amount of time and labor goes into such a short but fun event. Thanks, Fred ----- Original Message ----- From: bill schaffell Date: Saturday, September 4, 2004 9:06 am Subject: Balloon Drops > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------- > ------------------ > > I just want to thank New York Local 1 for doing a great job > rigging my 100,000+ balloons and the > the 70 streamer cannons we built into the stage. Despite cue > changes that were actually happening during the > final speech every balloon net opened and cannon fired. > > > Bill Schaffell > WJS Studios > 909-986-2363 > www.wjsStudios.com > > ------------------------------ From: "RICHARD FINKELSTEIN" Subject: Designer anniversaries and more Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 16:19:52 -0400 Message-ID: Hi Listers! First. Thank you all who contributed info on the design/tech credits for the Republican Convention. Thanks to NPR I also finally have the names of the announcers at both the conventions (first time female announcers have ever been used actually in these). I have all the credits for the conventions and the olympics that I know of online at: http://www.artslynx.org/theatre/techstats.htm And on This Month in Theatre History I have the following designer tech anniversaries to celebrate in September: 42nd Anniversary of the birth of Adolphe Appia 396th Anniversary of the birth of designer, Giacomo Torelli 20th Anniversary of the death of lighting designer,technical director, Hans Sondheimer 88th Anniversary of the birth of Swiss costume designer, Lila de Nobili 95th Anniversary of the birth of designer, Charles Elson 13th Anniversary of the death of designer Frederick Fox 67th Anniversary of the birth of lighting designer, Jennifer Tipton 50th anniversary of the death of designer, Andre Derain 66th Anniversary of the birth of designer, Karl Eigsti 77th Anniversary of the birth of lighting designer, Thomas Skelton 13th Anniversary of the death of Theodor (Dr.) Seuss Geisel 57th Anniversary of the birth of designer, Ursula Belden 52nd Anniversary of the birth of designer, Andrew Jackness 14th Anniversary of the birth of Edward Kook, the "Ko" of the "Leko" developed by Century Lighting Richard F rfdesigns.org artslynx.org ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.1.20040904162247.01a523b0 [at] incoming.verizon.net> Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 16:30:19 -0400 From: Patrick McCreary Subject: Re: Cheseborough ratings In-Reply-To: References:

At 04:16 PM 9/4/2004, I wrote: >Kee Klamp and Holleander don't make cheeseboroughs - that is, they don't >make the double-clamshell rigid or swivel clamps that most of us call a >"Cheeseborough." > >Patrick Duh - That's Hollaender, not HollEAnder. For what it's worth, Speed-rail fittings are made of an Aluminum and Magnesium alloy, and Kee Clamps are made of Malleable Iron. The latter tend to be a bit thicker and heavier than the former, generally rated a bit higher, and are available in more sizes. Not quite as attractive, though, unless maybe you decide to buy the recently-introduced color versions. Patrick G. Patrick McCreary Ass't. Professor - Technical Director Department of Theater and Dance Indiana University of Pennsylvania Indiana, PA 15701 (Office) 724-357-2644 (Home) 724-349-4309 ------------------------------ Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20040904174054.050fad98 [at] pop.lightlink.com> Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 17:41:49 -0400 From: John Bracewell Subject: Re: Designer anniversaries and more In-Reply-To: > 14th Anniversary of the birth of Edward Kook, the "Ko" of the > "Leko" developed by Century Lighting Richard, this HAS to be a mistake, yes? More like 14th anniversary of the DEATH of Eddy Kook? -- JLB ------------------------------ From: "Karl G. Ruling" Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2004 15:32:59 -0700 Subject: Re: prices Message-ID: <4139E02B.12877.D4B22 [at] localhost> In-reply-to: On 4 Sep 2004 at 3:00, Stagecraft wrote: > and accessories, and I can make about 150 fifty-five gallon drum dry > ice foggers for the price of one Aqua Fogger. > Did you consider your wages or the value of your labor when you calculated the cost of making 150 dry ice foggers? Besides that, for rental applications no phone calls at 7:00 p.m. about burned out heaters or leaking drums counts for a WHOLE LOT. ------------------------------ From: "Michael Eddy" Subject: RE: Designer anniversaries and more Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 19:12:09 -0400 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >And on This Month in Theatre History I have the following designer tech = >anniversaries to celebrate in September: >42nd Anniversary of the birth of Adolphe Appia >14th Anniversary of the birth of Edward Kook, the "Ko" of the "Leko" I didn't realize that Adolph Appia was younger than I am.=20 Also, I think the Ed Kook anniversary is wrong. Methinks there might be a typo. Great list otherwise. Michael S. Eddy Lighting&Sound America =A0 michael [at] plasa.org www.lightingandsoundamerica.com ------------------------------ From: Bsapsis [at] aol.com Message-ID: <42.5745134a.2e6bd174 [at] aol.com> Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 22:18:28 EDT Subject: Re: Cheseborough ratings In a message dated 9/4/04 10:13:31 AM, Rick [at] StudioOneSB.com writes: >What do you call off the shelf clamps. The products from Kee Clamp, and >Speed Rail from an industrial supply house are are rated. I would also >hope that the scaffold clamps are rated. I sure would not want to be 30' >up on scaffold built with no rated hardware. Well, they aren't. Go ask your scaffolding people. The clamps are designed to help hold a structure together. Not hold a weight by themselves. And the post wasn't asking about Kee Clamps or Speed Rail. It was about Cheeseboros. Bill S. Sapsis Rigging, Inc. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile We stand behind, and under, our work. ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #123 *****************************