Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.4) with PIPE id 4726639; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 03:01:01 -0700 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.4 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #166 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 03:00:47 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-pre4 (2004-08-04) on prxy.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=ham version=3.0.0-pre4 X-Spam-Level: X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4a3 For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #166 1. Le Maitre G300 Error: F-PU & F-LO by Scott Parker 2. Re: Le Maitre G300 Error: F-PU & F-LO by Michael Beyer 3. Re: Motors and Pulleys for Halloween by Eddie Kramer 4. Re: Lightwright survey results by Herrick Goldman 5. Re: Locking Rail/Rope light Thread by Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com 6. Re: Amateur/professional/academic by Brian Aldous 7. Lightwright survey results by CB 8. Anyone use the HME Pro 850 wireless? by CB 9. Re: Amateur/professional/academic by "Michael Denison" 10. Re: Locking Rail/Rope light Thread by "Michael Denison" 11. Re: Locking Rail/Rope light Thread by "Waxler, Steve (waxlers)" 12. Re: Locking Rail/Rope light Thread by Bsapsis [at] aol.com 13. Re: Lightwright survey results by John McKernon 14. Re: Lightwright survey results by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 15. Re: Le Maitre G300 Error: F-PU & F-LO by Scott Parker 16. Re: Lightwright survey results by "Samuel L. Jones" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <90d9c99804101705433cf3ccd7 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 08:43:52 -0400 From: Scott Parker Subject: Le Maitre G300 Error: F-PU & F-LO Help..... My Le Maitre G300 hazer/fogger is displaying errors F-PU & F-LO. The result is no fog or haze. No juice is flowing and I don't hear any pumping. I'm going to open the thing up during tech today, but I'm hoping someone can tell me what the error codes are for. I've already looked at Le Maitre's site. Thanks -- Take care, Scott Scott C. Parker ------------------------------ Message-ID: <468d2282041017071677248ce [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:16:22 -0400 From: Michael Beyer Subject: Re: Le Maitre G300 Error: F-PU & F-LO In-Reply-To: References: seems like there is a clog or a leak in the line somewhere. Is there a puddle of fluid under or in the machine? I have had the FLO error, and it was a clog. Michael On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 08:43:52 -0400, Scott Parker wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Help..... My Le Maitre G300 hazer/fogger is displaying errors F-PU & > F-LO. The result is no fog or haze. No juice is flowing and I don't > hear any pumping. > I'm going to open the thing up during tech today, but I'm hoping > someone can tell me what the error codes are for. I've already looked > at Le Maitre's site. > Thanks > > -- > Take care, Scott > > Scott C. Parker > ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:55:05 -0400 From: Eddie Kramer Subject: Re: Motors and Pulleys for Halloween On 10/16/04 Mike Benonis sent: >where I can purchase a small but powerful motor and a number of pulleys. Stock Drive Products 2101 Jericho Tpke Box 5416 New Hyde Park, NY 11042-5416 www.sdp-si.com OR Small Parts, Inc. 13980 N.W. 58th Court P.O. Box 4650 Miami Lakes, FL 33014-0650 www.smallparts.com -- -------------------- Eddie Kramer IATSE #1 Member NEC Panel 15 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:58:12 -0400 Subject: Re: Lightwright survey results From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Look out John..You're implying that LW can actually control DMX somehow. Next we'll want to pre-cue a show in LW and have it upload to the console. Or maybe just be the console. Heck if it can run a coffeemaker it oughta be able to run an x-spot. (why it would want to would be another question) -H On 10/17/04 0:04, "Dale Farmer" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- >> >> Actually, "make coffee" was a recurring request. Anybody know where to get a >> DMX-controlled coffee maker?...;) >> >> - John > > > -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Locking Rail/Rope light Thread Message-ID: From: Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:30:59 -0400 Last season Van Wezel PAH put up three different colors of rope light running the full length of our locking rail on the wall behind the 'T' tracks. Most of the tours coming through used it and were very happy with the system, seems to work much better than bunches of bulbs in cages as the flyguys can look at the rope rather than looking away for a cue light. The three different colors allow for three different cues close together. We terminated them with "Edison" plugs but dedicated pin plug adaptors are close by. As ever, some folks just have to do it the way they always do it. I am bothered hearing the locking handle a "brake". I've seen rails where people did that and after a surprisingly short time the ropes get the locking surfaces slicked up very smooth with a subsequent loss of gripping ability. Great way to set yourself up for a load to start slipping through the lock: Not a good thing. Marty Petlock Technical Facilities Manager Van Wezel P.A.H. Sarasota, FL. ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <740AA66F-205B-11D9-BFA7-000A9592AE20 [at] tany.com> From: Brian Aldous Subject: Re:Amateur/professional/academic Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:41:54 -0400 After following this thread I am beginning to think that the distinction may be, uh, academic, so to speak. Originally (as previously observed) the distinction between professional and amateur was a class distinction, between those who did something for the pure love of it, not needing to make a living at it as opposed to those who live by their skills. This distinction began in sports - any reader of murder mysteries has noted the tension between professional & amateur riders in Dick Francis' novels set in the horse racing world. I am considered a professional lighting designer (at least by those who don't know me well - Herrick, stay off my back here) because I make my entire income in this field and receive health plan and pension rights, etc, through my union, United Scenic Artists IATSE local 829. However, in a typical year 8 - 10 of the 30 or so "full size" productions (those taking a week or more of tech, as opposed to the 40-60 single day events I do) I light are for academic institutions. I am currently teaching one course for a college. So am I an academic or a professional? How about Jennifer Tipton, Mitchell Dana, Chris Akerlind? Academics or professionals? Another third of the plays or dance productions I do are "off-off"Broadway. The actors, dancers, directors, choreographers, playwrights invariably actually make their rent with "day jobs" as waiters, teachers, and even newspaper editors. I am often the only one on a new play who earns his living at it. Does this make my colleagues amateurs or professionals? If the showcase does well and converts to a mini-contract, do the actors magically turn into professionals? In the last few years there has been a continuing discussion between the LORT theatres and my union on whether designers should be paid a living wage. (See Peter Marradudin"s article comparing our wages to those of BART bus drivers in ED a few months back). The point is that anyone choosing to work in the not-for-profit world (be it the arts or academia) is choosing to earn less than he or she would earn in the "real world." We all are subsidizing the institutions we work for because we love what we do. Are we amateurs or professionals? Or just idiots? Working in the arts is a marginal activity in the US in any case. We are all in this together, as the success of this list shows. I love to read a question posed by a high school student answered by a Local 1 props man or the production manager for Clear Channel or the TD at a college over the pond. It is a great mix. Academic/amateur/professional is irrelevant. Let's give it a rest. BA On Oct 17, 2004, at 6:00 AM, Stagecraft wrote: > Amateur/professional/academic... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20041017131017.019611c8 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:10:17 From: CB Subject: Lightwright survey results >Actually, "make coffee" was a recurring request. Anybody know where to get a >DMX-controlled coffee maker?...;) Yup, at Booth 1821 ETS - LDI 2004 Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20041017131339.019611c8 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:13:39 From: CB Subject: Anyone use the HME Pro 850 wireless? >Anybody already been down this road and have a solution? Just a few days ago, I posted: The reply from a friend that has the chops: >The MAHA POWEREX 2300 mAh batteries and smart chargers from http://www.thomas-distributing.com/ is the way to go. > >We use 4 batteries per wireless clear com pack for a weeks worth of tech rehearsals (note: the electricians use them for their focus calls during the day in this period, too) without ever getting a low battery indicator light. We put fresh ones in before opening, run all our shows, pack up our gear, tour to the next venue, load in and tech again with the new local crew, and don't replace again until opening night. > >They have a very high life curve. I can expect 500-1000 charges out of each battery. So in effect, when I purchased our batteries, I really bought a minimum of 500 times the AA's. Our expenditures on Duracell Procell AA batteries each season alone was more than all the rechargeable batteries and chargers we ordered to cover our needs. > > >I have double the total # of batteries that we ever need at any given time. A complete set in the gear we are using and a complete back-up set topped off in the smart chargers (for a quick swap if needed). If Jonathan has battery monitoring software with his wireless mic package, then rechargeable are the way to go! If not, I wouldn't take the chance personally. RF mics are too important to chance a failure otherwise. Thanks go to Bryan Schlegel, Az Opera Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4172A786.25592.54DE5D3 [at] localhost> From: "Michael Denison" Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:10:30 -0500 Subject: Re: Amateur/professional/academic In-reply-to: Okay, so the Passion Play at Oberammergau, Germany, is "amateur" and the plays that the students at the Yale School of Drama do are "amateur/academic" and the 800th road show of The Odd Couple starring a has-been TV star and playing at a dinner theatre in Boise is "professional". Do I understand all this correctly? Michael A. Denison Technical Director Cottey College 1000 West Austin Nevada, MO 64772 (417) 667-8181 x 2265 FAX: (417) 667-8103 mdenison [at] cottey.edu www.cottey.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4172A89E.30228.5522A99 [at] localhost> From: "Michael Denison" Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 17:15:10 -0500 Subject: Re: Locking Rail/Rope light Thread In-reply-to: Mea maxima culpa. I'm the one who initially called a rope lock a brake. I myself never use them as brakes and I teach my students to use them correctly, however, I agree with all of you that even calling them brakes can mislead students to use them as such. So...I apologize. Okay? Michael A. Denison Technical Director Cottey College 1000 West Austin Nevada, MO 64772 (417) 667-8181 x 2265 FAX: (417) 667-8103 mdenison [at] cottey.edu www.cottey.edu ------------------------------ Message-ID: <886EF25AF8BEF64EB89A820EF84064FF098249D9 [at] UCMAIL4> From: "Waxler, Steve (waxlers)" Subject: RE: Locking Rail/Rope light Thread Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:48:30 -0400 All is forgiven, you can come home again. Steve Waxler Technical Director College Conservatory of Music University of Cincinnati -----Original Message----- From: Michael Denison [mailto:mdenison [at] cottey.edu] Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 6:15 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Locking Rail/Rope light Thread For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Mea maxima culpa. I'm the one who initially called a rope lock a brake. I myself never use them as brakes and I teach my students to use them correctly, however, I agree with all of you that even calling them brakes can mislead students to use them as such. So...I apologize. Okay? Michael A. Denison Technical Director Cottey College 1000 West Austin Nevada, MO 64772 (417) 667-8181 x 2265 FAX: (417) 667-8103 mdenison [at] cottey.edu www.cottey.edu ------------------------------ From: Bsapsis [at] aol.com Message-ID: <8b.179219f3.2ea45909 [at] aol.com> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:23:53 EDT Subject: Re: Locking Rail/Rope light Thread In a message dated 10/17/04 6:49:11 PM, WAXLERS [at] UCMAIL.UC.EDU writes: << All is forgiven, you can come home again. >> Now wait just a darn minute. I already rented out his room. Bill S. Sapsis Rigging, Inc. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile We stand behind, and under, our work. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:13:52 -0400 Subject: Re: Lightwright survey results From: John McKernon Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > Look out John..You're implying that LW can actually control DMX somehow. No, I'm implying that someone else wants it to - an altogether different thing entirely...;) Now I just have to figure out what *I* want LW to do. And code it...:( - John ------------------------------ From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Lightwright survey results Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:17:36 -0400 Message-ID: <000501c4b4a7$df2aaab0$6701a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > Now I just have to figure out what *I* want LW to do. And code it...:( > > - John > Yeah, like we care what *you* want it to do.... ------------------------------ Message-ID: <90d9c9980410171744362ff329 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:44:22 -0400 From: Scott Parker Subject: Re: Le Maitre G300 Error: F-PU & F-LO In-Reply-To: References: It was some sort of clog. I took the unit apart and blew out the lines on both sides of the pumps and it's working again. Thanks. Scott > seems like there is a clog or a leak in the line somewhere. Is there > a puddle of fluid under or in the machine? I have had the FLO error, > and it was a clog. > > Michael > -- Take care, Scott Scott C. Parker ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: "Samuel L. Jones" Subject: Re: Lightwright survey results Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 23:55:08 -0700 On Oct 17, 2004, at 5:17 PM, Jeffrey E. Salzberg wrote: > >> Now I just have to figure out what *I* want LW to do. And code it...:( >> >> - John >> > > Yeah, like we care what *you* want it to do.... > > Trust me. You care. Sam Samuel L. Jones Developer of AutoPlotVW and AutoPlot Tools for SpotLight sjones [at] arts.ucla.edu ============================================================= ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #166 *****************************