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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #302

 1. Was 'Colortran 'Airflow' light' Now repair vs. replacement
    by BKHAIN [at] aol.com
 2. Re: Cable clip thread length
    by "Josh Ratty" <josh.ratty [at] verizon.net>
 3. Re: Creating Effects ETC 48/96
    by nancy moeur <nmoeur [at] wso.williams.edu>
 4. Re: Cable clip thread length
    by Brian Munroe <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
 5. Re: message headers?
    by Brian Munroe <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
 6. Re: Curtain pipe safety cable
    by "Christopher K. Nimm" <nimmck [at] charter.net>
 7. Re: Curtain pipe safety cable
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
 8. Re: Fog Curtain
    by "Warren Stiles" <w_stiles [at] techie.com>
 9. Re: Third appendage
    by Jeff Forbes <jeffforbes [at] earthlink.net>
10. Re: Creating Effects ETC 48/96
    by Noah Price <stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net>
11. Re: message headers?
    by Noah Price <stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net>
12. Re: Cable clip thread length
    by "Frank E. Merrill" <Lamplighter [at] TCON.net>
13. Re: Third appendage
    by "Joshua Webb" <jwebb [at] worcesteracademy.org>

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From: BKHAIN [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <7e.63a0ba0d.2f48aafc [at] aol.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 09:45:16 EST
Subject: Was 'Colortran 'Airflow' light' Now repair vs. replacement

Just to follow up on this issue of the 'airflow' light on a Colortran Encore 
board.  At first we learned if I disconnected the board from the dimmers I 
still got the airflow light. Then I did a hard clear but did not load any cues, 
light came on so at least I know it's not an error in the programming of cues.  
Then I put a new battery in, light came on immediately, tried resetting the 
board, tried hard clearing again and finally resolved the issue by getting a 
different control board.  An Innovator 24/48

So it is something in the control board and not the dimmers.  

Now, is it worth fixing the 8 year old 48/96 Encore or keeping the 2 year old 
Innovator? Dealer is pushing us to keep the Innovator and said he sell it for 
slightly less than $3000. How's that compare? 

Ben

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Message-ID: <002001c51694$2b6d6e50$fa66fea9 [at] Rattys>
From: "Josh Ratty" <josh.ratty [at] verizon.net>
Cc: bpmunroe [at] gmail.com (Brian Munroe)
References: <list-19123952 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Cable clip thread length
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 10:03:26 -0500

I hope you mean extra length on the u-bolt. The saddle is the other part of
the assembly and should not be used on the dead end.

Josh Ratty
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Munroe" <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 1:09 AM
Subject: Cable clip thread length


> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> While we are on the subject of cable clips:
>
> Why, oh why, can't they make the saddle a little longer with a little
> more threads, so that the nuts don't have a tendency to fall off while
> you are pulling the dead end thru the clip?  Would another 3/8" of
> thread destroy the ratings?
>
> Brian Munroe


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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 11:48:55 -0500
From: nancy moeur <nmoeur [at] wso.williams.edu>
Subject: RE: Creating Effects ETC 48/96
In-reply-to: <list-19156555 [at] prxy.net>
Message-id: <1108831735.42176df76dcaf [at] webmail.williams.edu>
References: <list-19156555 [at] prxy.net>

Regarding my Express tutorial, Bill (and a couple of other folks) asked:

>I'm probably stepping way out of line here, but is this something that
>might be made available on the Stagecraft website? Of course, this would
>only be IF 1) you wouldn't mind making it available, and 2) Noah is
>willing to find a place for it. But I know I would like to see it and
>would especially love for my students to have access to it as well.
>
>Bill Peeler
>Texas State University

Noah has alreay emailed me privately to suggest exactly that, and I've sent him
a .pdf.  So, it should be available for download soon.  I'll continue to send
them out to anyone who requests one from me, though.  

I should add the caveat that it isn't what I'd call finished--there are still
some sections I'd like to add, when (if!) I ever get time.  But I think it
stands pretty well on its own.  I made a few modifications to it for use in our
department, and now can't find the original generic copy, so when it says "Ask
the Electrics department...." just ignore it.

I welcome comments at either of the addresses below, but it'll probably be a
while before I get an update done.  One comment that I've gotten recently
should be addressed:  I use an example of Proportional Patching (patch a 2000w
load down to 90% so it won't trip an 1800w breaker) that isn't a real GOOD
idea, though I bet most of us have done it at some point, for some reason. 
Advise your students accordingly, if you think they might be tempted!

best to all,

-nancy

----
Nancy Moeur
AME, Syracuse Stage & SU Drama
--
nmoeur [at] syr.edu -or-
nmoeur [at] wso.williams.edu
----


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Message-ID: <b7aa2801050219091512f128c9 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 12:15:35 -0500
From: Brian Munroe <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
Reply-To: Brian Munroe <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Cable clip thread length
In-Reply-To: <list-19180869 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-19123952 [at] prxy.net> <list-19180869 [at] prxy.net>

right, I meant the u-bolt.


On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 10:03:26 -0500, Josh Ratty <josh.ratty [at] verizon.net> wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> I hope you mean extra length on the u-bolt. The saddle is the other part of
> the assembly and should not be used on the dead end.
> 
> Josh Ratty
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Munroe" <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
> To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 1:09 AM
> Subject: Cable clip thread length
> 
> > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> >
> > While we are on the subject of cable clips:
> >
> > Why, oh why, can't they make the saddle a little longer with a little
> > more threads, so that the nuts don't have a tendency to fall off while
> > you are pulling the dead end thru the clip?  Would another 3/8" of
> > thread destroy the ratings?
> >
> > Brian Munroe
> 
>

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Message-ID: <b7aa280105021909204156ebc9 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 12:20:08 -0500
From: Brian Munroe <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
Reply-To: Brian Munroe <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: message headers?
In-Reply-To: <list-19124962 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-18988473 [at] prxy.net> <list-19072614 [at] prxy.net>
	 <list-19115672 [at] prxy.net> <list-19123361 [at] prxy.net>
	 <list-19124962 [at] prxy.net>

Noad Said:
    " Almost any recent email program and many webmail services can file
lists into their own folder"

That is what I do with outlook.  Different mailing lists, show
reports, etc get sent to different folders.  What Gmail does is sort
by conversation, or thread.  So all the messages about "message
headers" appear as a grouped conversation.  This makes it much easier
to read what I am interested in, and skip what I am not interested in.

Brian Munroe


On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 22:17:52 -0800, Noah Price
<stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net> wrote:
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> On Feb 18, 2005, at 10:05 PM, Brian Munroe wrote:
> 
> > I just switched from the digest version, on my regular email, to
> > single message mode with my gmail account.  GMail makes it much easier
> > to manage and read the lists.
> 
> Almost any recent email program and many webmail services can file
> lists into their own folder. One of these days I'll add instructions to
> the web site for major programs!
> 
> Noah
> 
> --
> |   Noah Price                |   http://stagecraft.theprices.net/     |
> |   Stagecraft Mailing List   |   stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net         |
> 
>

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Message-ID: <002801c516b9$16b10d30$6601a8c0 [at] tamiasuis>
From: "Christopher K. Nimm" <nimmck [at] charter.net>
References: <list-19076354 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Curtain pipe safety cable
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 13:27:44 -0600

Where is this 'photobucket' of which you wrote?  I'd really like to see the 
picture.

Chris Nimm

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <FrankWood95 [at] aol.com>
To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: Curtain pipe safety cable


> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> In a message dated 18/02/05 21:48:18 GMT Standard Time,
> doomster [at] worldnet.att.net writes:
>
>> It seems to me that this should have become standard by now, i.e. a
>>  sleeve with in bottom part of the curtain, perhaps even of canvas. Doom
>
> Cycloramas come in many different forms. I think that I am fortunate. Ours 
> is
> a 13" brick wall, curved on a 70' radius, plastered, and painted. It is 
> the
> full height of the stage, and has a pit at its base to accommodate 
> lighting. It
> is also the full width of the stage, about 70'. When not needed. the pit 
> is
> filled in, and black drapes drawn across to hide it.
>
> It works well. Go to 'photobucket' , and look for a file I posted there
> called 'builder'. This will show what can be done.
>
>
>
> Frank Wood
> 


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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <1b8.d3715eb.2f48edfb [at] aol.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 14:31:07 EST
Subject: Re: Curtain pipe safety cable

In a message dated 19/02/05 19:28:52 GMT Standard Time, nimmck [at] charter.net 
writes:

> 
>  Where is this 'photobucket' of which you wrote?  I'd really like to see 
the 
>  picture.

I don't remember the exact address. Google may help, as may the stagecraft 
archive.


Frank Wood

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From: "Warren Stiles" <w_stiles [at] techie.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 17:41:15 -0500
Subject: Re: Fog Curtain
Message-Id: <20050219224115.DC8C71CE303 [at] ws1-6.us4.outblaze.com>

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Message-Id: <ea60b9287e397bd968603fa57b427ba5 [at] earthlink.net>
From: Jeff Forbes <jeffforbes [at] earthlink.net>
Subject: Re:Third appendage
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 15:39:18 -0800


On Feb 17, 2005, at 8:24 PM, Stagecraft wrote:

> I'd be more interested in the extra hand.  I think it
> would be useful more often than the prehensile tail.
> (Ever had to give a pill to a cat?)
>
>        --Jacki
>

So now this is really straying OT. I have to give one of my cats a pill 
twice a day. And several techniques, such as wrapping them in a towel, 
definitely seemed to require a third hand. However, I stumbled on this 
technique, which works like a charm. Pick up cat in one hand, pill in 
other hand. Kneel on the floor, or the bed, and place cat between 
knees. Keep your feet together so cat can't back out. Using left hand, 
gently tip cat's head up, ( I grip the cheekbones on either side with 
thumb and forefinger). Holding the pill in thumb and index finger of 
right hand, gently push your middle finger between the lips and teeth 
and open the mouth. Pop in pill, and stroke the cat's throat causing it 
to swallow. Make sure the pill has been swallowed before letting the 
kitty go. Some times my cat shakes her head from side to side after I 
let her go and I see the pill go flying across the room. Then I have to 
start over and it's really hard with a wet pill.


Jeff A Forbes
PMB 124 6820 SE Foster Rd
Portland OR 97206
(503)-888-5619
www.performanceworksnw.org


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Message-Id: <25894cfe2a55392e96c742a978a1bcd7 [at] theprices.net>
From: Noah Price <stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net>
Subject: Re: Creating Effects ETC 48/96
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 16:54:33 -0800


On Feb 19, 2005, at 8:48 AM, nancy moeur wrote:

> Noah has alreay emailed me privately to suggest exactly that, and I've 
> sent him
> a .pdf.  So, it should be available for download soon.  I'll continue 
> to send
> them out to anyone who requests one from me, though.

Thanks Nancy, the tutorial is posted at:

<http://stagecraft.theprices.net/gallery/etcexpress/>

If others can offer other sorts of tutorials or other articles, I'm 
happy to devote a section of the site to information, rather than 
including it with the pictures :-)

Thanks,

Noah


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Message-Id: <320203ad42f4e68679b192e283fff8b3 [at] theprices.net>
From: Noah Price <stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net>
Subject: Re: message headers?
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 16:56:20 -0800


On Feb 19, 2005, at 9:20 AM, Brian Munroe wrote:

> Noad Said:
>>     " Almost any recent email program and many webmail services can 
>> file
>> lists into their own folder"
>
> That is what I do with outlook.  Different mailing lists, show
> reports, etc get sent to different folders.  What Gmail does is sort
> by conversation, or thread.  So all the messages about "message
> headers" appear as a grouped conversation.  This makes it much easier
> to read what I am interested in, and skip what I am not interested in.

That's also possible in many email clients (though not other webmail 
that I'm aware of), and is why the "in-reply-to" and "references" 
headers are maintained in the list messages (GMail is using these 
headers if it is threading messages with different subject headers).

All these conveniences are why I'm surprised roughly 2/3 of our 
subscribers receive the digest! But, I know for many the constant 
barrage of mail is undesirable, even if it's filed neatly away from the 
main inbox.

Thanks,

Noah

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|   Stagecraft Mailing List   |   stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net         |


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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 20:15:36 -0500
From: "Frank E. Merrill" <Lamplighter [at] TCON.net>
Reply-To: "Frank E. Merrill" <Lamplighter [at] TCON.net>
Message-ID: <1207558465.20050219201536 [at] TCON.net>
Cc: bpmunroe [at] gmail.com (Brian Munroe)
Subject: Re: Cable clip thread length
In-Reply-To: <list-19123952 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-19123952 [at] prxy.net>

Howdy!

Saturday, February 19, 2005, Brian Munroe wrote about wire rope
U-bolts:

BM> ...a little more threads, so that the nuts don't have a tendency
BM> to fall off while you are pulling the dead end thru the clip?

When I'm installing clips, I form the wire rope around the thimble and
snap a pair of Vise Grips onto the wire rope near the narrow end of
the thimble to hold the termination together while I assemble the
clip.  I also keep a cupla extra clip nuts in my pocket, since there
seems to be an inverse proportion between my working height and the
liklihood that one of the little nuts will flip away!

Yes, I carefully adjust the vise grips so they are tight enough to
grip but not so tight the wire rope is damaged.

Best regards,
 Frank E. Merrill
 MERRILL STAGE EQUIPMENT
 Eastablished 1946
 Indianapolis  
 317: 255 4666

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         mailto:Lamplighter [at] TCON.net



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Message-id: <fc.00757e4300fd286e3b9aca00caef0a08.fd2871 [at] worcesteracademy.org>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 23:39:53 -0500
Subject: Re: Third appendage
From: "Joshua Webb" <jwebb [at] worcesteracademy.org>
References: <list-18922460 [at] prxy.net>
 <list-19223883 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-19223883 [at] prxy.net>

"Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net> writes:
>For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
>---------------------------------------------------
>
>
>On Feb 17, 2005, at 8:24 PM, Stagecraft wrote:
>
>> I'd be more interested in the extra hand.  I think it
>> would be useful more often than the prehensile tail.
>> (Ever had to give a pill to a cat?)
>>
>>        --Jacki
>>
>
>So now this is really straying OT. I have to give one of my cats a pill 
>twice a day. And several techniques, such as wrapping them in a towel, 
>definitely seemed to require a third hand. However, I stumbled on this 
>technique, which works like a charm. Pick up cat in one hand, pill in 
>other hand. Kneel on the floor, or the bed, and place cat between 
>knees. Keep your feet together so cat can't back out. Using left hand, 
>gently tip cat's head up, ( I grip the cheekbones on either side with 
>thumb and forefinger). Holding the pill in thumb and index finger of 
>right hand, gently push your middle finger between the lips and teeth 
>and open the mouth. Pop in pill, and stroke the cat's throat causing it 
>to swallow. Make sure the pill has been swallowed before letting the 
>kitty go. Some times my cat shakes her head from side to side after I 
>let her go and I see the pill go flying across the room. Then I have to 
>start over and it's really hard with a wet pill.
>
>
>Jeff A Forbes
>PMB 124 6820 SE Foster Rd
>Portland OR 97206
>(503)-888-5619
>www.performanceworksnw.org
>

I just coat the thing in a meat flavored baby food (my cat prefers turkey)
and pop it in. No problem.

Joshua G. Webb
Designer/Technical Director
Worcester Academy
81 Providence St.
Worcester, MA 01604
508.754.5302 x174


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