Return-Path: X-Processed-By: Virex 7 on prxy.net X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.6) with PIPE id 20782429; Sun, 13 Mar 2005 03:01:49 -0800 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.6 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #327 Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 03:01:35 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on prxy.net X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #327 1. USITT news by "David R. Krajec" 2. Re: Why carry equipment? by "Daryl Redmon" 3. Station fire, Warwick, Rhode Island by "Bll Conner" 4. Re: ice shows by "CrewCall" 5. Re: Glasgow by "Tony" 6. Saltimbanco by "Tony" 7. Special Thanks by "Stephen E. Rees" 8. reading the list and canadian currency by kim.hartshorn [at] plattsburgh.edu 9. Re: Why carry equipment? by "Simon Shuker" 10. Re: Saltimbanco by "Tom Heemskerk" 11. Re: reading the list and canadian currency by Steve Larson 12. Re: reading the list and canadian currency by IAEG [at] aol.com 13. Re: Empirical Peep Data by Loren Schreiber 14. Re: Empirical Peep Data by "Delbert Hall" 15. Re: 520i by Andrew Vance 16. Re: ETC Expression/Express Wireless RFU by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 17. Re: reading the list and canadian currency by Steve Larson 18. Re: PDA recommendation by Stephen Litterst 19. Re: reading the list and canadian currency by IAEG [at] aol.com 20. Re: ETC Expression/Express Wireless RFU by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 21. Re: ETC Expression/Express Wireless RFU by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 22. Re: ETC Expression/Express Wireless RFU by David Marks 23. Re: PDA Recommendation by Brendan Quigley 24. Re: Why carry equipment? by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 25. Glasgow by Martha Kight 26. Peeeeeeps by Matthew Kopans 27. Re: PDA recommendation by "Michael S. Eddy" 28. Re: reading the list and canadian currency by "Paul Schreiner" 29. Re: Peeeeeeps by IAEG [at] aol.com 30. Re: Empirical Peep Data by "Michael S. Eddy" 31. Re: reading the list... And peeps by "James Smith, www.theatrewireless.com" 32. Re: PDA's by Sunil Rajan 33. Re: Why carry equipment? by John Bracewell 34. Hot melt glue solvents by Nick Purdy 35. Re: Hot melt glue solvents by Mark O'Brien 36. Re: Empirical Peep Data by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 37. Re: ETC Expression/Express Wireless RFU by Stephen Litterst 38. Re: Empirical Peep Data by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 39. Re: ETC Expression/Express Wireless RFU by Herrick Goldman 40. Re: Hot melt glue solvents by "Don Taco" 41. Re: Hot melt glue solvents by Dale Farmer 42. Re: Why carry equipment? by "Robert G. Anderson" 43. Re: Hot melt glue solvents by Pat Kight 44. Re: Why carry equipment? by Steve Larson 45. Re: Hot melt glue solvents by "Josh Ratty" 46. Re: reading the list... And peeps by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 47. Re: reading the list... And peeps by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 48. Re: Hot melt glue solvents by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 49. Re: ETC Expression/Express Wireless RFU by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 50. Re: ETC Expression/Express Wireless RFU by Herrick Goldman 51. Re: Empirical Peep Data by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 52. Re: Saltimbanco by "Tony" 53. Re: Why carry equipment? (now at enormous thread drift) by John Bracewell 54. Re: Saltimbanco by David d'Anjou 55. AOL update for those who use AIM by Herrick Goldman 56. Re: Saltimbanco by Mat Goebel *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Reply-To: From: "David R. Krajec" Subject: USITT news Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 08:08:45 -0600 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: I just read the following in the USITT Board of Directors packet. It is taken from the report filed by VP-Commissions Dennis Dorn. ---snip from board packet--- Interest Item C. 2005-06 will bring a re-alignment of the commissions. Because so much of what is done by the Education Commission is contextual in nature, that commission will be dissolved and its functions absorbed by the other commissions. Similarly, the Engineering Commission will also be dissolved, or merged with Technical Production. Engineering has moved in the direction of Standards for years now, and the current and recent leadership have expressed the desire to dissolve on several occasions. In-coming VP-Commissions Kim Williamson is fully informed of this decision. ---end snip--- I spoke with the leadership of both commissions and they are 1) surprised at this news and 2) totally opposed to any action which would eliminate their existence without engaging the members of the respective commissions in dialogue about such a move. The USITT Board of Directors meet on Tuesday, March 15 at 7:00 PM. If you have any interest in the activities of either of these commissions, let someone know how you feel. David R. Krajec Assoc. Professor - Theatre Dept. Cardinal Stritch University ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000801c52711$cf45c2b0$6500a8c0 [at] yourfsyly0jtwn> From: "Daryl Redmon" References:

Subject: Re: Why carry equipment? Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 06:43:08 -0800 > --------------------------------------------------- > >> a venue and patch in some wireless mics and turn on the console and >> 'VIOLA', sound. >> > > > C'mon, anyone can find the viola knob - it's in between the cello knob and > the violin knob, just underneath the "suck" control.... > Na, it can't be in the strings area. After all it's wireless so my guess is the viola know is some kind of woodwind or brass. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001901c52711$e017a360$8d01a8c0 [at] BCA1> Reply-To: "Bll Conner" From: "Bll Conner" Subject: Station fire, Warwick, Rhode Island Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 08:43:36 -0600 The NIST report is out and is recommended reading for anyone involved with entertainment technology and facilities. And at 24 pages - really not too onerous. http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/ncst.htm/#Rhode_Island_Nightclub Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002101c52713$971ba380$0100a8c0 [at] tricia> From: "CrewCall" References:

Subject: Re: ice shows Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 14:55:54 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pamela Abra" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 7:57 AM Subject: ice shows | For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see | --------------------------------------------------- | | I am guessing that the average ice show tour is like a rock concert tour | with all of the lighting, | costumes, props and sound equipment. | | Probably a small touring crew who would go from city to city and hire the | local crew to help??? | | Thanks | Pam | | And lots of local ice :) that stays around of weeks and weeks after the show as left :))) Chris ------------------------------ Message-ID: <004501c52716$b7f64120$0800000a [at] Tony> From: "Tony" Cc: ddanjou [at] gmail.com (David d'Anjou) References:

Subject: Re: Glasgow Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 15:18:14 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- > > Also - if you didn't already know - beware of pubs closing at > ridiculously early hours and Glasgowlians (sp???) Glaswegians 8-))) ------------------------------ Message-ID: <006001c52716$fd265a00$0800000a [at] Tony> From: "Tony" References: Subject: Saltimbanco Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 15:20:10 -0000 Well.... Off to the Cirque du Soleil's "Saltimbanco" this evening in Birmingham (UK) Really looking forward to it - will report back in the week. (Never did find anyone involved in the UK tour, did we....?) Ynot ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42330B01.6060001 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 10:30:09 -0500 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: Special Thanks Hi All, I wanted to take a moment to publicly thank fellow listers Kevin Lowther and June Abernathy who, along with former student, Jim Hammond who were kind enough to take my wife and me backstage at Shea's Buffalo to show us around the deck and puppet land. We had a wonderful time and we appreciate your willingness to meet with total strangers to share the world of The Lion King with them. Thanks so much. I look forward to seeing you again before you leave town. Very Best, Steve Rees, TD SUNY-Fredonia ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1110641184.42330a20139cb [at] webmail.plattsburgh.edu> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 10:26:24 -0500 From: kim.hartshorn [at] plattsburgh.edu Subject: reading the list and canadian currency References: In-Reply-To: When reading the list makes you angry it is time to stop reading the list. When writing to the list in anger and sarcasm it is time to stop posting. I have to point out that one thing I rarely see in the posts from across the water is anger and sarcasm. Opinions, even strong opinions, and opinions different from mine I will always find interesting...but I really dislike reading personal venom. It makes for a much better list imo just not to reply than to reply with anger and sarcasm. On another note, living near the border in upstate NY, dont bring any Canadian Currency at all, far better to use your ATM card once you get there. In fact...even here at home I rarely carry much US currency anymore...i always go to the atm machine :-) What you don't want to do is use US currency, everybody will take it, but the exchange will not be favorable. Or like someone else said...use your cards for everything. Anyone wanna buy my Maple Leafs tickets? :-) Kim ------------------------------ From: "Simon Shuker" Subject: RE: Why carry equipment? Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 19:58:10 +0400 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <20050312155828.D76C45888 [at] mail05.powweb.com> So knob is also a slur in your part of the world as well then? - bloody musicians!!! -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Daryl Redmon Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 6:43 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Why carry equipment? For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------- > >> a venue and patch in some wireless mics and turn on the console and >> 'VIOLA', sound. >> > > > C'mon, anyone can find the viola knob - it's in between the cello knob > and the violin knob, just underneath the "suck" control.... > Na, it can't be in the strings area. After all it's wireless so my guess is the viola know is some kind of woodwind or brass. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <2704.204.244.226.43.1110643520.squirrel [at] 204.244.226.43> In-Reply-To: References:

Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 08:05:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Saltimbanco From: "Tom Heemskerk" > > Well.... > Off to the Cirque du Soleil's "Saltimbanco" this evening in Birmingham > (UK) Wait! See if Andrew Smith (props), Dave Rowan (Head Carp) or Matt Whelan (TD) are still with them, and say hi from Tom if any of them are.... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 11:16:25 -0500 Subject: Re: reading the list and canadian currency From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: That is not even funny. I'm speaking from Raleigh. Damn, we miss hockey. Miss all the Maple Leafs fans that come down and spend money. Steve > From: kim.hartshorn [at] plattsburgh.edu > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" > Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 10:26:24 -0500 > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: reading the list and canadian currency > Or like someone else said...use your cards for everything. Anyone wanna buy > my Maple Leafs tickets? :-) > > Kim > > > ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <64.50db527f.2f6473b1 [at] aol.com> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 11:32:49 EST Subject: Re: reading the list and canadian currency In a message dated 3/12/05 11:19:03 AM, tiptd [at] theatreinthepark.com writes: << That is not even funny. I'm speaking from Raleigh. Damn, we miss hockey. Miss all the Maple Leafs fans that come down and spend money. Steve >> Excuse me ? ? Here in Tampa, we have yet to have the extreme pleasure of raising the Stanley Cup Banner to the rafters yet ! Go Bolts ! keith ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20050312091444.0399c888 [at] mail.sdsu.edu> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 09:25:48 -0800 From: Loren Schreiber Subject: Re: Empirical Peep Data In-Reply-To: References: At our opening night bar-b-que last night we did some experiments with Peeps to verify the data coming from this list. Peeps in the microwave swell up a little, spurt a little puff of steam (smoke?) and then collapse into a puddle that, when using yellow Peeps, looks like a fried egg. Upon cooling, the Peeps get real hard and brittle. When broken open, there is a thin brown center strata among the other colors, indicating, according to our scientists, either a rich, chocolaty center or burnt sugar. None of our investigators opted to test either theory. We also discovered that the hard Peep puddles make excellent mini Frisbees and fly a lot father than beer bottle caps. These experiments were carried out with genuine Peeps brand peeps. Use of other (off shore) peeps may have different results. Loren Schreiber, Chief Instigator Center for Peeps Research San Diego State University ------------------------------ Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: Re: Empirical Peep Data Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 12:36:38 -0500 Loren, I hope you got a grant from USITT to conduct this reseach and the full report appears in an upcoming edition of TD&T. (It would make an excellent companion piece of my our "electic pickle" research.) This invaluable reseach will untimately improve countless productions and will improve heath and safety in our industry. We all thanks you. -Delbert Delbert L. Hall 423-773-HALL (4255) > >At our opening night bar-b-que last night we did some experiments with >Peeps to verify the data coming from this list. > >Peeps in the microwave swell up a little, spurt a little puff of steam >(smoke?) and then collapse into a puddle that, when using yellow Peeps, >looks like a fried egg. Upon cooling, the Peeps get real hard and brittle. >When broken open, there is a thin brown center strata among the other >colors, indicating, according to our scientists, either a rich, chocolaty >center or burnt sugar. None of our investigators opted to test either >theory. We also discovered that the hard Peep puddles make excellent mini >Frisbees and fly a lot father than beer bottle caps. > >These experiments were carried out with genuine Peeps brand peeps. Use of >other (off shore) peeps may have different results. > >Loren Schreiber, Chief Instigator >Center for Peeps Research >San Diego State University > ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <4728975122d2d8e5e8a76b587fe16a79 [at] andrewvance.com> From: Andrew Vance Subject: Re: 520i Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 12:09:35 -0600 On 12 Mar, 2005, at 02:08, Klyph Stanford wrote: > The 520i is a tracking console. It took me a while to wrap my head > around > making tracking work, but now that I understand it, I would rather > drink > bleach than design a show on a cue only console. I'm the same way. I couldn't "get" tracking consoles for the longest time, but then when it finally clicked I saw the tremendous potential and exquisite control they had. Unfortunately, my current boards are cue-only [Expressions], but with LTP and finally figuring out how its TRACK button works [sometimes] I've managed to make them close enough to the Obsessions I'm used to. > I am a control freak, > and don't want to have anything happen until I press "enter". Nothing annoys me more with my Expressions than not having to hit enter to complete a command. Yes its an extra keystroke, but [like Klyph said] I like for nothing to happen until I want it to. I also like being able to edit all the variables of a cue at once [ex: Cue 123 Time 4/5 Wait 2/5 Follow 10], and I like for them not to be soft keys. So much of my time programming is wasted by hitting S2 to update, forgetting that I deleted a cue awhile ago so I've brought up the Sub List instead. WOuld be great if they could standardize applicable softkeys across models. [ie: S4 is update on Expressions and Obsessions, S6 is always Delete whatever, etc.] Would make the times I jump back and forth amongst products a little easier. > My main issue with the Expression is the way cues are handled in the > cue > stack. When I record a cue, I then want to be in that cue, not some > previous cue with channels "captured". Also one of my biggest gripes, and it still catches me today. It'd be great if ETC wrote that into the next version [if there is one] of the Expression code, or into Emphasis. I really want an Obsession, but that's a little out of my price range. I've been looking to upgrade to Emphasis for awhile, but I don't need the visualization element of it next. Plus, all my plots are in Vectorworks and I don't really want to learn another drafting program that won't run on my Mac anyway. > There is also the annoyance of where pressing "back" takes you. Not > to the > previous cue in the cue stack, but instead to the last cue you were > in, no > matter where it lies. I made a work around for this long ago, as it was the bane of my existence during notes. Macro 5 is "CUE - Go A-B". It reads the current cue, goes to the one right before it, and Goes. Not the most eloquent, but it does the job. Its still accessible by one key stroke at the board, and the only reason I put it as M5 was because I had filled up M1-4 with other mundane tasks I needed at the RFU [Next, Last, Blind, Set-up]. The one thing I do like about the Expression over Obsessions is the "Live" button as standard on the RFU. -- Sincerely, Andrew Vance Lighting Designer www.andrewvance.com ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <103.5cfc1229.2f648a77 [at] aol.com> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 13:09:59 EST Subject: Re: ETC Expression/Express Wireless RFU In a message dated 12/03/05 03:27:59 GMT Standard Time, Andy [at] DucksEchoSound.com writes: > We happen to be discussing the ETC Revolution, which is ETC's new > intelligent Source Four. It uses the same basic optics, the same lamp, > the same everything as the standard Source Four, just automates > everything. It's the SAME EXACT FRICKIN' LIGHTING, just with more > flexibility. I will just point out that it 'automates' exactly nothing. It just means that you can set all of its parameters sitting in the control room, instead of up a lift. More comfortable, yes. Faster, I doubt, if the luminaire is accessible. I can usually walk to anything in my theatre in 15 seconds or so, since it's all hung from catwalks. If you're working with flown bars, I can see the advantage. But it doesn't read my mind. You'll have to wait for next year's model for that. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 13:13:07 -0500 Subject: Re: reading the list and canadian currency From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Condolences. They played so well. It was a great cup series. Hopefully we'll be back next season. I'm a Caniac season ticket holder and my money is earning interest just waiting. steve > From: IAEG [at] aol.com > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" > Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 11:32:49 EST > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Re: reading the list and canadian currency > we have yet to have the extreme pleasure of raising the Stanley Cup Banner to > the rafters yet ! > > Go Bolts ! > > keith > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 13:24:50 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: PDA recommendation In-reply-to: Message-id: <1064.172.151.106.81.1110651890.squirrel [at] 172.151.106.81> References: <6667 [at] ithaca.edu> > --------------------------------------------------- > Yep. We have one here at work. An Ipaq IIRC. The > console is a Strand 500. Works over WiFi. Our ME keeps > threatening to sit in the office and run shows off of > it instead of being in the booth... Why waste the battery life? He can log in with the Strand X-connect and run it from his office computer. Rob Halliday tells a story of the Production Electrician for Oklahoma using X-connect to log into the show from Korea to see what changes had been made. Steve Litterst ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <24.6c9d36e7.2f648e15 [at] aol.com> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 13:25:25 EST Subject: Re: reading the list and canadian currency In a message dated 3/12/05 1:16:30 PM, tiptd [at] theatreinthepark.com writes: << Condolences. They played so well. It was a great cup series. Hopefully we'll be back next season. I'm a Caniac season ticket holder and my money is earning interest just waiting. steve >> fifth , sixth and seventh games of the finals are maybe the best hockey I've seen played by both teams keith ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1eb.36beaffa.2f64917e [at] aol.com> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 13:39:58 EST Subject: Re: ETC Expression/Express Wireless RFU In a message dated 12/03/05 03:41:11 GMT Standard Time, slitterst [at] ithaca.edu writes: > I understand that many of us are concerned about the younger members of > the list thinking that Frank's way is the best way, but all this > Frank-bashing probably isn't encouraging many of them to grow up to be > like us. I'm going to ask a question. Do you really want them to grow up in the same, narrow-minded mindset as many of you have? These are the people who will be leading us into the future. They need to have new and different ideas. Many of you think mine wrong: so be it. But they need to know of other possibilities, and perhaps to extrapolate from them. As we get older, we all suffer from hardening of the intellectual arteries. I'm 65+, and I confess to lighting shows to a method, unless challenged by a director. But, for straight plays, set in real places, it works. For big spectacular musicals, I should not do a good job. I shouldn't even think of doing a rock show. And, I don't mind a bit of bashing. To quote Burns, "Sticks and stanes may break my bones, but words will never hurt me." If I have planted one new idea in one new LD, I shall take that as my reward. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <7f.59b9c248.2f64934c [at] aol.com> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 13:47:40 EST Subject: Re: ETC Expression/Express Wireless RFU In a message dated 12/03/05 03:51:09 GMT Standard Time, Andy [at] DucksEchoSound.com writes: > You're right, Steve, and I think I speak for most of us when I say that > we really do try, just sometimes we can't hold it in anymore. I also > want to clarify that my, "Go back under your bridge" comment was meant > to refer to the internet definition of a troll, implying that Frank > often posts with the primary goal of causing a disturbance, rather than > contributing anything useful. It all depends on what you mean by useful. It is certainly not my intention to create a disturbance. Just to say that there are other ways of working than those set in your tablets of stone. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42333977.1040707 [at] att.net> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 13:48:23 -0500 From: David Marks Subject: Re: ETC Expression/Express Wireless RFU References: In-Reply-To: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote: > If I have planted one new idea in one new LD, I shall take that as my > reward. I'm speechless. Dave Marks ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 12:55:23 -0600 From: Brendan Quigley Subject: Re: PDA Recommendation In-reply-to: Message-id: References: mornin' Listers ... so Dave Krajec wrote: > I use my HP Ipaq everyday. > > Somebody check me on this - if you get the right PDA, you can use it > as a > wireless RFU to use with your lighting system. > I think. Well, I'll be buying a pair of iPaq RX 3115's here shortly to run checkouts on my show. They are (currently) the preferred wireless device to control the GrandMA's I have out here. I'm getting two, as one will do the conventional cue list, and the other will do the VL's and projectors. They are a bit pricey (~$300 USD), but heck, the show's buying so it's not like it's my money or anything. I believe that this brand (or similar types) will work on Ob II's and perhaps other desks that adhere to the 802.11 B spec. Now, when Mac makes one I'll actually get a PDA for myself. Don't feel the need to be that connected ... Kind Regards, Brendan C. Quigley Head Electrician/Vari*Lite Technician WICKED - A New Broadway Musical ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1f1.376451fe.2f6495bd [at] aol.com> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 13:58:05 EST Subject: Re: Why carry equipment? In a message dated 12/03/05 14:44:07 GMT Standard Time, jonathand01 [at] sbcglobal.net writes: > Na, it can't be in the strings area. After all it's wireless so my guess is > the viola know is > some kind of woodwind or brass. Well, your'e wrong.. A Viola is an alto violin Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 10:53:15 -0800 From: Martha Kight Subject: Glasgow David d'Anjou said: >Also - if you didn't already know - beware of pubs closing at >ridiculously early hours and Glasgowlians (sp???) Too true! At 11pm comes the dreaded time-honored (if a tad gender-archaic) call of "Time, gentlemen, please!" that prompts all glasses to go bottoms-up! FYI - if you make some friends - which is very easy to do in Scotland ( Even Galsgow, were they tend toward a more gruff demeanor to some degree), you might find a neighborhood pub that, at 11, closes and its doors and becomes a "private party", in which case they stay open till whenever! Also - it's "Glaswegians", just so you know when you arrive, Chris. (really!) :) Tell it "hi" for me. Our sister moved back from there and I miss visiting. *sigh* One more thing -if someone calls you Jimmy, (as in "See you, Jimmy") in Glasgow, they're not mistaking your name - it's a generic thing, like "Buddy", sorta. But just peculiar to Glasgow and environs. This really *is* still on-topic. Somehow. Ok, not. -Martha Martha Kight Synergy Stage Sacramento, CA ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20050312190802.53265.qmail [at] web42401.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 11:08:02 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Kopans Subject: Peeeeeeps In-Reply-To: Just for the record: 1) Peeps are parve (neither milk nor meat). However, during Passover, some more religious Jews might object to the corn syrup (corn rises -- my mom can probably better explain). Fortuantely, Passover this year comes nowhere near USITT. 2) If you like stale Peeps - try eating the microwaved ones after they've cooled. Its like 5 times the size and just as crunchy! Matt Kopans University of Pittsburgh Matthew J.Kopans Lighting Design / Production Management www.matthewjkopans.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: Reply-To: From: "Michael S. Eddy" Subject: RE: PDA recommendation Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 14:11:44 -0500 In-Reply-To: -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Litterst Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 1:25 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: PDA recommendation >> Yep. We have one here at work. An Ipaq IIRC. The >> console is a Strand 500. Works over WiFi. Our ME keeps >> threatening to sit in the office and run shows off of >> it instead of being in the booth... >Why waste the battery life? He can log in with the Strand X-connect and >run it from his office computer. >Rob Halliday tells a story of the Production Electrician for Oklahoma >using X-connect to log into the show from Korea to see what changes had >been made. >Steve Litterst I visited Rob Halliday during the in for Oklahoma. He had found a driver that allowed him to use the "free" Strand off-line editor for control and thus able to control the entire rig wirelessly from his Apple laptop with an Apple Airport card. It was so cool to see the entire rig run off a laptop from the deck. The best story was when Strand showed up to show him their (at that time) new wireless control from a PDA that they were going to sell as a product line. They were a little taken aback that someone figured out how to do it for free! They were using 300 series consoles as designer remotes. The production electrician even makes a side living off installing Ethernet networks. Michael Eddy ------------------------------ Subject: RE: reading the list and canadian currency Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 14:19:26 -0500 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A0196C755 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> From: "Paul Schreiner" > fifth , sixth and seventh games of the finals are maybe the=20 > best hockey I've=20 > seen played by both teams Agreed, to a point. If the Calgary defensemen had started pressing and forechecking deep in the offensive zone before the tail end of the third, it might have been a different outcome. Tampa had that as part of the game plan from the get-go, and that made the difference IMHO. Can you tell I'm going through withdrawal too? As an aside, while watching the semifinals last year, my son uttered his first complete, complex, diagrammatically-correct sentence: "Come play hockey with me, please." Don't get me started... (lifetime Sabres fan whose foot has been in the crease once in a while as well) ------------------------------ From: IAEG [at] aol.com Message-ID: <89.22a9536b.2f649b78 [at] aol.com> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 14:22:32 EST Subject: Re: Peeeeeeps In a message dated 3/12/05 2:08:43 PM, mjkopa [at] yahoo.com writes: << 1) Peeps are parve (neither milk nor meat). However, during Passover, some more religious Jews might object to the corn syrup (corn rises -- my mom can probably better explain). Fortuantely, Passover this year comes nowhere near USITT. >> Kosher Coca Cola (yes there is such a thing) is sweetened with Cane Sugar, Regular Coca Cola is sweetened with Corn Syrup So Peeps would probably NOT be considered Kosher I would guess, , , this refers to the US, , in many countries around the world, , Coca Cola is still sweetened with Cane Sugar ------------------------------ Message-ID: Reply-To: From: "Michael S. Eddy" Subject: RE: Empirical Peep Data Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 14:36:51 -0500 In-Reply-To: Loren Schreiber wrote: At our opening night bar-b-que last night we did some experiments with Peeps to verify the data coming from this list. Peeps in the microwave swell up a little, spurt a little puff of steam (smoke?) and then collapse into a puddle that, when using yellow Peeps, looks like a fried egg. Upon cooling, the Peeps get real hard and brittle. When broken open, there is a thin brown center strata among the other colors, indicating, according to our scientists, either a rich, chocolaty center or burnt sugar. None of our investigators opted to test either theory. We also discovered that the hard Peep puddles make excellent mini Frisbees and fly a lot father than beer bottle caps. These experiments were carried out with genuine Peeps brand peeps. Use of other (off shore) peeps may have different results. Loren Schreiber, Chief Instigator Center for Peeps Research San Diego State University Loren, Maybe you can get published by the Peeps Research Institute. (We know how hard it is to get published outside of the Entertainment Technology IndustryT!) Here is the link to their site: http://www.peepresearch.org/ Intro from the site: As we plunge into the 21st century, it is time we take a closer look at the technological wonders we create. Here, we try to discover just a little bit more about the world around us through the miracles of science, technology, and preservatives. We hope you enjoy this educational tour as we work to characterize everybody's favorite Easter candy, the Marshmallow Peep. I don't know which is funnier - Risk Analysis: Investigating the effects of smoking and alcohol on Peep health or Fear Response: Discover what causes this dramatic Peep behavior. As always, let's practice safe practices during testing. We wouldn't want you to end up in a report in the Dr. DoomR Darwin ArchivesT. FWIW, Michael Eddy ------------------------------ From: "James Smith, www.theatrewireless.com" Subject: RE: reading the list... And peeps Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 14:58:27 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <20050312195831.BRYE2034.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net [at] p3m866> > When reading the list makes you angry it is time to stop > reading the list. > > When writing to the list in anger and sarcasm it is time to > stop posting. I have to point out that one thing I rarely > see in the posts from across the water is anger and sarcasm. > Opinions, even strong opinions, and opinions different from > mine I will always find interesting...but I really dislike > reading personal venom. It makes for a much better list imo > just not to reply than to reply with anger and sarcasm. > Kim Following recommendations from a much earlier thread, I'm getting ready to filter emails containing the word "peep". Frankly (pun!) I would rather read what Mr. Wood has to say than even one more peep comment. Please forgive me -- I'm really a good person. Gotta feed my fish now. Jim ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Sunil Rajan Subject: Re: PDA's Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 15:46:16 -0500 I've been a fan of Palm devices since my first Palm Professional years ago (I still have it too... must get rid of old stuff...). I bought a Treo 600, and have been very happy with it. It did have some bugs early in the production run, but my new one has been awesome! It even served as a "replacement" computer when my Powerbook died on tour. Access to webmail, POPmail (included in my service plan) was slow, but useable. Sync with my Mac no problem, and the easy Palm UI. I hear the Treo 650 is even better, with Bluetooth and improved features. My 2 cents... Sunil Rajan Freelance Audio Mercenary ------------------------------ Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20050312154815.02c61a00 [at] pop.lightlink.com> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 15:50:33 -0500 From: John Bracewell Subject: Re: Why carry equipment? In-Reply-To: >Well, your'e wrong.. A Viola is an alto violin Gee, Frank. You wouldn't tell us a fib, would you? I thought the alto violin was a voila. I mean, it makes sense, right? Voilin, voila, voilincello? (Apologies to any francophones on the list.) -- JLB ------------------------------ Message-ID: <21827e3e0503121236291d1f3b [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 15:36:22 -0500 From: Nick Purdy Reply-To: Nick Purdy Subject: Hot melt glue solvents Hello all. I just recieved a question from a costumer friend of mine, and I wondered if any of you would have a better answer than I did, which wouldn't be hard since I had none to give her. Does anyone know of a good solvent for hot melt glue? She has a fiberglass mannequin that at some point had something else attached to it using hot melt glue, and was wondering if there was anything that could dissolve the problem gracefully or if a chisel, sander or small amount of explosive would be a better way to disengage the adhesive. Thanks for any and all input. Nick Purdy Technical Director Sorenson Center for the Performing Arts Babson College ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <2ca2f58c8d7f0032f8de9c5b08f2abfd [at] email.arizona.edu> Cc: marko [at] email.arizona.edu (Mark O'Brien) From: Mark O'Brien Subject: Re: Hot melt glue solvents Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 14:15:20 -0700 Look for a store that makes computer cut graphics for sports uniforms. The manufacturer of the iron on stuff makes a solvent to remove their product, it may work with yours. My 2 cents. Mark O'Brien Opera Technical Director University of Arizona, School of Music Tucson, AZ 520/621-7025 520/591-1803 Mobile On Mar 12, 2005, at 1:36 PM, Nick Purdy wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hello all. I just recieved a question from a costumer friend of mine, > and I wondered if any of you would have a better answer than I did, > which wouldn't be hard since I had none to give her. > > Does anyone know of a good solvent for hot melt glue? She has a > fiberglass mannequin that at some point had something else attached to > it using hot melt glue, and was wondering if there was anything that > could dissolve the problem gracefully or if a chisel, sander or small > amount of explosive would be a better way to disengage the adhesive. > > Thanks for any and all input. > > Nick Purdy > > Technical Director > Sorenson Center for the Performing Arts > Babson College ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 21:22:48 GMT Subject: Re: Empirical Peep Data Message-Id: <20050312.132249.29002.155995 [at] webmail05.lax.untd.com> So, where is the MSDS on Peeps? /s/ Richard ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 16:29:31 -0500 (EST) From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: ETC Expression/Express Wireless RFU In-reply-to: Message-id: <1499.172.172.49.104.1110662971.squirrel [at] 172.172.49.104> References: > --------------------------------------------------- > I will just point out that it 'automates' exactly nothing. It just means > that > you can set all of its parameters sitting in the control room, instead of > up > a lift. More comfortable, yes. Faster, I doubt, if the luminaire is > accessible. I can usually walk to anything in my theatre in 15 seconds or > so, since it's > all hung from catwalks. Well, it's certainly quieter and more discreet than having you wander the catwalks during a show refocusing the units for the next scene. Steve Litterst ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Empirical Peep Data Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 16:32:12 -0500 Message-ID: <000001c5274a$f7972c70$6801a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > So, where is the MSDS on Peeps? I wanna know what the LD50 is. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 16:38:17 -0500 Subject: Re: ETC Expression/Express Wireless RFU From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Never mind the repeatability factor. I'm not sure Frank could get it right EVERY time. 15 seconds huh? That's quick Frank. Now do 30 of them..oh and color too,..didja bring the gloves for the hot gobos you'd be switching out? Oh and quietly Frank tiptoe please. And try not to drop anything on the audience? Of course it will be faster in a Frank design there won't be color or gobos just position and shutters. On 3/12/05 4:29 PM, "Stephen Litterst" wrote: > > > Well, it's certainly quieter and more discreet than having you wander the > catwalks during a show refocusing the units for the next scene. > > Steve Litterst > > > -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Message-ID: <051101c5274b$59dca4f0$e28aaa43 [at] DonTaco> From: "Don Taco" Cc: nik8324 [at] gmail.com (Nick Purdy) References: Subject: Re: Hot melt glue solvents Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 13:28:22 -0800 > Does anyone know of a good solvent for hot melt glue? She has a > fiberglass mannequin that at some point had something else attached to > it using hot melt glue, and was wondering if there was anything that > could dissolve the problem gracefully or if a chisel, sander or small > amount of explosive would be a better way to disengage the adhesive. > > Thanks for any and all input. > > Nick Purdy Put it in the microave with a toothpick under its wing. It's 'hot melt' glue, no? ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42336226.E2BC2370 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 16:41:58 -0500 From: Dale Farmer Organization: The fuzz in the back of the fridge. Subject: Re: Hot melt glue solvents References: Nick Purdy wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hello all. I just recieved a question from a costumer friend of mine, > and I wondered if any of you would have a better answer than I did, > which wouldn't be hard since I had none to give her. > > Does anyone know of a good solvent for hot melt glue? She has a > fiberglass mannequin that at some point had something else attached to > it using hot melt glue, and was wondering if there was anything that > could dissolve the problem gracefully or if a chisel, sander or small > amount of explosive would be a better way to disengage the adhesive. Chill the glue and the attached surface with ice or, if available, LN2. ONce it is cold, the glue can be picked off fairly easily. Caution, any paint on the fiberglass may go with the glue. Conversely, an industrial heat gun on low setting will soften the glue, allowing it to be scraped off with a plastic spatula. ( don't melt the spatula, and the heat may damage the fiberglass. ) --Dale ------------------------------ Message-ID: <00bf01c5274f$6f1872a0$a8b2a80c [at] 0016599365> From: "Robert G. Anderson" References: Subject: Re: Why carry equipment? Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 16:04:11 -0600 Well...I thought Viola was a town in Tennessee...and a character in "Twelfth Night." Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Bracewell" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 2:50 PM Subject: Re: Why carry equipment? > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > >Well, your'e wrong.. A Viola is an alto violin > > Gee, Frank. You wouldn't tell us a fib, would you? > > I thought the alto violin was a voila. I mean, it makes sense, > right? Voilin, voila, voilincello? > > (Apologies to any francophones on the list.) > > -- JLB > > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4233701D.1050907 [at] peak.org> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 14:41:33 -0800 From: Pat Kight Subject: Re: Hot melt glue solvents References:

In-Reply-To: Dale Farmer wrote: > Nick Purdy wrote: >>Hello all. I just recieved a question from a costumer friend of mine, >>and I wondered if any of you would have a better answer than I did, >>which wouldn't be hard since I had none to give her. >> >>Does anyone know of a good solvent for hot melt glue? She has a >>fiberglass mannequin that at some point had something else attached to >>it using hot melt glue, and was wondering if there was anything that >>could dissolve the problem gracefully or if a chisel, sander or small >>amount of explosive would be a better way to disengage the adhesive. > Chill the glue and the attached surface with ice or, if available, LN2. > ONce it is cold, the glue can be picked off fairly easily. Caution, any > paint on the fiberglass may go with the glue. > Conversely, an industrial heat gun on low setting will soften the > glue, allowing it to be scraped off with a plastic spatula. ( don't melt > the spatula, and the heat may damage the fiberglass. ) I've had good results simply warming the glue with a hair dryer until it softens enough enough to peel off. If you don't heat it to the point where it actually melts, it usually comes of in one neat chunk. -- Pat Kight kightp [at] peak.org ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 17:46:00 -0500 Subject: Re: Why carry equipment? From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: voila or viola? sjl > From: John Bracewell > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" > Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 15:50:33 -0500 > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Re: Why carry equipment? > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > >> Well, your'e wrong.. A Viola is an alto violin > > Gee, Frank. You wouldn't tell us a fib, would you? > > I thought the alto violin was a voila. I mean, it makes sense, > right? Voilin, voila, voilincello? > > (Apologies to any francophones on the list.) > > -- JLB > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 17:53:18 -0500 From: "Josh Ratty" Subject: Re: Hot melt glue solvents Cc: nik8324 [at] gmail.com (Nick Purdy) Message-id: <00bc01c52756$49087950$a900a8c0 [at] Rattys> References: I have yet to encounter a solvent that will remove hot glue. Acetone, alcohol, 3M adhesive remover etc have all failed. You best bet is to attack it physically (as opposed to chemically) as other have suggested. It can be surprisingly durable. Josh Ratty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Purdy" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 3:36 PM Subject: Hot melt glue solvents > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hello all. I just recieved a question from a costumer friend of mine, > and I wondered if any of you would have a better answer than I did, > which wouldn't be hard since I had none to give her. > > Does anyone know of a good solvent for hot melt glue? She has a > fiberglass mannequin that at some point had something else attached to > it using hot melt glue, and was wondering if there was anything that > could dissolve the problem gracefully or if a chisel, sander or small > amount of explosive would be a better way to disengage the adhesive. > > Thanks for any and all input. > > Nick Purdy > > Technical Director > Sorenson Center for the Performing Arts > Babson College ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <1da.37ff0227.2f64ce71 [at] aol.com> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 18:00:01 EST Subject: Re: reading the list... And peeps In a message dated 12/03/05 19:59:13 GMT Standard Time, jsmith [at] theatrewireless.com writes: > Following recommendations from a much earlier thread, I'm getting ready to > filter emails containing the word "peep". Frankly (pun!) I would rather > read what Mr. Wood has to say than even one more peep comment. So, frankly (Pun intended,) should I. Constructive posts I welcome, as with honest disagreement. Information about different standards and techniques is also welcome. Vulgar abuse is all far too common, and I suppose that that says something about our community. Not something that I should like to be able to say, but is the way that some of us behave. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: reading the list... And peeps Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 18:05:42 -0500 Message-ID: <002301c52758$06f6cc90$6801a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > So, frankly (Pun intended,) should I. Constructive posts I > welcome, as with > honest disagreement. Well, Frank (and I say this with all due respect), you might get more of them (and less of the other kind) if you stopped presenting your own point of view as the Absolute and Only Right. ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <155.4c566fc1.2f64d03f [at] aol.com> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 18:07:43 EST Subject: Re: Hot melt glue solvents In a message dated 12/03/05 21:04:33 GMT Standard Time, nik8324 [at] gmail.com writes: > Does anyone know of a good solvent for hot melt glue? She has a > fiberglass mannequin that at some point had something else attached to > it using hot melt glue, and was wondering if there was anything that > could dissolve the problem gracefully or if a chisel, sander or small > amount of explosive would be a better way to disengage the adhesive. You could try heat. A hair dryer might work. Failing that, a hot air paint stripper, used with discretion, surely would. After all, if the glue melts when it gets hot, it seems a reasonable idea. There might be residues to be dealt with. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 18:22:26 EST Subject: Re: ETC Expression/Express Wireless RFU In a message dated 12/03/05 21:30:28 GMT Standard Time, slitterst [at] ithaca.edu writes: > Well, it's certainly quieter and more discreet than having you wander the > catwalks during a show refocusing the units for the next scene. Different philosophies. When I focus a luminaire, it's a 'tablets of stone' job.There may be minor changes, but its general purpose is fixed. That, I suppose, is because I work out what I'm doing before I do it. If you have to do it on the fly, you just do the best you can. Knowing the principles of lighting design will help, but not much. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 18:40:12 -0500 Subject: Re: ETC Expression/Express Wireless RFU From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Frank, We've been through this before. None of us (or very few) "do this on the fly". We have multiple purposes for multiple units figured out before hand and we utilize them that way. A VL1000 with a 20=B0 to 90=B0 spread can act as = a wide wash fixture or a small pinspot special. I can have it do both in one show or even in one scene when I plan it out well. This is not an on the fly concept it is a utilitarian concept where one fixture does the work of 5 or 10. -H On 3/12/05 6:22 PM, "FrankWood95 [at] aol.com" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- >=20 >=20 > If you have to do it on the fly, you just do the best you can. Knowing th= e > principles of lighting design will help, but not much. >=20 > Frank Wood >=20 --=20 Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 23:59:19 GMT Subject: Re: Empirical Peep Data Message-Id: <20050312.160011.1154.156572 [at] webmail11.lax.untd.com> Someday, someone, while doing a full global search of the list archives, will inadvertently enter the character string "P E E P S" and wonder what the hell we all were ingesting this month... /s/ Richard > So, where is the MSDS on Peeps? I wanna know what the LD50 is. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <006601c52763$deedf730$0800000a [at] Tony> From: "Tony" References:

Subject: Re: Saltimbanco Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:30:30 -0000 Well, the show was (as expected) ruddy FANTASTIC! Was nice to see a different range of stuff from that I'd seen (twice now) in La Nouba, and the difference was a refreshing surprise. Don't get me wrong - I could sit and watch La Nouba over & over and still not see the same show twice, but I got things I didn't expect, which is always good! Particularly liked the 4-way bungee act and the swing-launched acrobatics - MAN those guys were hurled high! The oral sound effects guy was precision encapsulated - particularly working with the chap from the audience (was he a plant, we ask.....?) when he had him doing all sort of madcap stuff on stage with him, accompanied with Victor Borge type clicks, bangs, whistles & whooshes! Was surprised to not see a huge number of movers in the rig - could only see half a dozen or so. But the lighting seemed so slick, it didn't really need the complication. LOADS of chrome par cans a few S4's and a couple of well-trained follow-spotters who hit the mark EVERY time! (from up atop two of the main truss supports). Loaded with humour, excellent performers and precision choreography throughout. EXCELLENT show. Scanned the programme, btw - none of your names came up on the wdw lists, I'm afraid, and with my wife & 2 kids in tow, it wasn't really an opportune time to hunt out the booth and say "Hey - you know so-and-so?"....! Ynot ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Heemskerk" To: "Stagecraft" Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 4:05 PM Subject: Re: Saltimbanco > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > > Well.... > > Off to the Cirque du Soleil's "Saltimbanco" this evening in Birmingham > > (UK) > > Wait! See if Andrew Smith (props), Dave Rowan (Head Carp) or Matt Whelan > (TD) are still with them, and say hi from Tom if any of them are.... > > ------------------------------ Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20050312202345.020e4918 [at] pop.lightlink.com> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 20:24:44 -0500 From: John Bracewell Subject: Re: Why carry equipment? (now at enormous thread drift) In-Reply-To: References: >voila or viola? > >sjl You did read Frank's post, didn't you? But what the hey . . . Take your pick. - JLB ------------------------------ Message-ID: <96c90e3405031219161083757 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 22:16:01 -0500 From: David d'Anjou Reply-To: David d'Anjou Subject: Re: Saltimbanco In-Reply-To: References:

Sorry I missed the request for info before you saw the show. Andrew Dave and Mat are all off to other projects - Andrew is starting the new show here in Montreal, Matt Wand Dave Rowan just finshed on KA. Yeah - as you noticed, Saltimbanco is our "low tech" show - no stage automation, very few moving lights, small crew (for cirque) of 13. I can throw up some gear lists if anyone's ineterested. They did just get a new Yamaha FOH Audio board - our first tour to go digital. (Although Dralion followed almost right after) And no - it isn't an audience plant. D On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:30:30 -0000, Tony wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Well, the show was (as expected) ruddy FANTASTIC! > Was nice to see a different range of stuff from that I'd seen (twice now) in > La Nouba, and the difference was a refreshing surprise. Don't get me wrong - > I could sit and watch La Nouba over & over and still not see the same show > twice, but I got things I didn't expect, which is always good! > > Particularly liked the 4-way bungee act and the swing-launched acrobatics - > MAN those guys were hurled high! The oral sound effects guy was precision > encapsulated - particularly working with the chap from the audience (was he > a plant, we ask.....?) when he had him doing all sort of madcap stuff on > stage with him, accompanied with Victor Borge type clicks, bangs, whistles & > whooshes! > > Was surprised to not see a huge number of movers in the rig - could only see > half a dozen or so. But the lighting seemed so slick, it didn't really need > the complication. LOADS of chrome par cans a few S4's and a couple of > well-trained follow-spotters who hit the mark EVERY time! (from up atop two > of the main truss supports). > > Loaded with humour, excellent performers and precision choreography > throughout. > > EXCELLENT show. > > Scanned the programme, btw - none of your names came up on the wdw lists, > I'm afraid, and with my wife & 2 kids in tow, it wasn't really an opportune > time to hunt out the booth and say "Hey - you know so-and-so?"....! > > Ynot > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Heemskerk" > To: "Stagecraft" > Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 4:05 PM > Subject: Re: Saltimbanco > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > Well.... > > > Off to the Cirque du Soleil's "Saltimbanco" this evening in Birmingham > > > (UK) > > > > Wait! See if Andrew Smith (props), Dave Rowan (Head Carp) or Matt Whelan > > (TD) are still with them, and say hi from Tom if any of them are.... > > > > > > -- David d'Anjou Technical Communications Supervisor Cirque du Soleil ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 23:46:23 -0500 Subject: AOL update for those who use AIM From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: For those of you who use the very useful internet chat client AIM. You should be aware of the following that has been slipped into their Terms of Service agreement. : "Although you or the owner of the Content retain ownership of all right, title and interest in Content that you post to any AIM Product, AOL owns all right, title and interest in any compilation, collective work or other derivative work created by AOL using or incorporating this Content. In addition, by posting Content on an AIM Product, you grant AOL, its parent, affiliates, subsidiaries, assigns, agents and licensees the irrevocable, perpetual, worldwide right to reproduce, display, perform, distribute, adapt and promote this Content in any medium. You waive any right to privacy. You waive any right to inspect or approve uses of the Content or to be compensated for any such uses." Now I knew that evesdropping could occur but this is ridiculous. Jus thought you may want to know. More can be found on slashdot.com or http://www.benstanfield.com/thrash/2005/03/aol_eavesdrops_.html Just thought you may all want to know. BTW Yahoo has a lovely chat client. -H -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 02:28:40 -0800 From: Mat Goebel Reply-To: Mat Goebel Cc: ddanjou [at] gmail.com (David d'Anjou) Subject: Re: Saltimbanco In-Reply-To: References:

On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 22:16:01 -0500, David d'Anjou wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > Yeah - as you noticed, Saltimbanco is our "low tech" show - no stage > automation, very few moving lights, small crew (for cirque) of 13. I > can throw up some gear lists if anyone's ineterested. I'd be interested. > They did just get a new Yamaha FOH Audio board - our first tour to go > digital. (Although Dralion followed almost right after) Which board? PM5D? -- Mat Goebel Cell: 510.693.1448 ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #327 *****************************