Return-Path: X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/Clamd http://raeinternet.com/mpp X-Scanned-By: This message was scanned by MPP Lite Edition (www.messagepartners.com)! X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 22314762; Thu, 12 May 2005 03:00:59 -0700 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #394 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 03:00:42 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on prxy.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.3 X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4f2 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #394 1. Re: Unka Bill's Book of Etiquette by Loren Schreiber 2. Re: bosuns chair WAS harnesses by Michael Millar 3. Maybe Moving to NJ - seeking advice on NJ/NYC area by MissWisc [at] aol.com 4. Re: Maybe Moving to NJ - seeking advice on NJ/NYC area by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 5. Re: Maybe Moving to NJ - seeking advice on NJ/NYC area by Jerry Durand 6. Re: SO, What is the topic(was kauai) AND Out of Office AutoReply: by CB 7. Rules and Regs (was:Re: SO, What is the topic(was kauai) AND Out of Office Aut by CB 8. NJ not NY by David Wetmore 9. Re: Maybe Moving to NJ - seeking advice on NJ/NYC area by Kevin Lee Allen 10. Re: Maybe Moving to NJ - seeking advice on NJ/NYC area by Herrick Goldman 11. Re: Maybe Moving to NJ - seeking advice on NJ/NYC area by Scott Parker 12. FW: Info LMI converters by "Muller, David" 13. Re: NJ not NY by Brian Munroe 14. Re: NJ not NY by Boyd Ostroff 15. Re: NJ not NY by Brian Munroe 16. Re: Maybe Moving to NJ - seeking advice on NJ/NYC area by "Andy Leviss" 17. Re: Info LMI converters by "Michael S. Eddy" 18. Re: FW: Info LMI converters by Stephen Litterst 19. Re: Fall arrest harness by "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-Id: <6.1.1.1.2.20050511071414.01f38868 [at] mail.sdsu.edu> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 07:21:58 -0700 From: Loren Schreiber Subject: Re: Unka Bill's Book of Etiquette In-Reply-To: References: >ya know, , there should be an "Uncle Bill's Book of Etiquette" >could be sold as a fund raiser for BROADWAY CARES / EQUITY FIGHTS AIDS, , etc >etc, , , One of the Long Reach Long Riders already has this one covered. "Professor Perfect," AKA "Grits," AKA Loren Schreiber wrote an article for Theatre Design and Technology some years ago entitled "Professor Perfect's Guide to Theatre Etiquette." I would be happy to provide a signed, original copy of the issue for, say, $100 donation to Broadway Cares/Equity Fights AIDS. ------------------- "Professor Perfect," AKA "Grits," AKA Loren Schreiber Long Reach Long Rider for Broadway Cares/Equity Fights AIDS ------------------------------ Message-ID: <42821F1C.7050608 [at] ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 08:05:00 -0700 From: Michael Millar Subject: Re: bosuns chair WAS harnesses References: In-Reply-To: For true comfort dangling all day, I would love to try a paraglider harness. Easy in/out, recline adjustment. Like sitting in a BarcoLounger! A bit pricey, though. Michael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 12:53:07 -0400 From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Subject: Maybe Moving to NJ - seeking advice on NJ/NYC area Message-ID: <1FF45EE9.125B9C56.007B9F2A [at] aol.com> If you were to live in/around Newark, where would you live and why? Any knowledge on schools (we have a 10 year old son), shopping, hospitals, etc.? Also - last spring around this time, I corresponded with someone about positions teching HS theatre in NYC. (Scott??) If anyone has any hints, connections, or tips as for teaching jobs (I've taught K-12 choral/general music and theatre/speech)... please send them my way. THANKS!!! We are looking into the possibilities before we make a decision. Have to admit, living between Herrick and Unkle Bill does sound tempting! Kristi ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Maybe Moving to NJ - seeking advice on NJ/NYC area Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 13:00:24 -0400 Message-ID: <000601c5564a$efac1cd0$6701a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > If you were to live in/around Newark, Well, I do. > where would you live > and why? I live in Secaucus, because: A. It's a 20-minute bus ride from midtown Manhattan. My friends who live in Brooklyn or Queens travel significantly longer to get to midtown, and I pay hald as much rent as they do. 2. Secaucus is very nice, unlike much of northern NJ. III. My dog likes it. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050511102043.03d687c8 [at] localhost> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 10:27:38 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Maybe Moving to NJ - seeking advice on NJ/NYC area In-Reply-To: References: At 09:53 AM 5/11/2005, you wrote: >If you were to live in/around Newark, where would you live and why? Any >knowledge on schools (we have a 10 year old son), shopping, hospitals, etc.? I was born in Newark and lived in both Newark and Irvington (boarders Newark). I haven't been to Newark in a long time, but it always seemed a place to get out of while Irvington seemed pretty nice. Maybe I just saw limited areas of each (166 Tichenor St. in Newark and 89 Washington Ave in Irvington). ---------- Jerry Durand Durand Interstellar, Inc. 219 Oak Wood Way Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 web: www.interstellar.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050511110046.016fc198 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 11:00:46 From: CB Subject: Re: SO, What is the topic(was kauai) AND Out of Office AutoReply: >It does seem much easier to trim postings as a digester since every post is >a new email and I have to deliberately cut and paste from the digest. Not quite. It's just as easy to trim your replies in single message mode as it is in digest, in fact, its even easier. The fact that its too easy to just slam a reply unthinking in single message, and you can't in digest, is the difference. Digest mode makes you compose a new message (or trim out the entire rest of the digest) and single message has no such mom, leaving the irresponsible children to do as they wish. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050511110902.016fc198 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 11:09:02 From: CB Subject: Rules and Regs (was:Re: SO, What is the topic(was kauai) AND Out of Office AutoReply:) >The rules of the other list, by the way, are also followed by convention on >the several theatre- and motorcycle-related newsgroups I regularly skim. I'm feeling a theatre/motorcycle theme going on here. I think that the rest of the group that don't know about motorcycles need a minute with 'Zen and the Art' to catch up. Could be that the draw to theatre and motorised two wheel travel, and the need to conform to the afore mentioned social contract have something in common... On the motorcycle front, Bill, et al, I would so like to be involved in one of the Log Riders excursions, but I find myself with an airplane ticket or three in my bag on an almost continuous basis nowadays. If I could only keep myself from taking the gigs that aren't lucrative, I'd have time to go out and play! Damn me for being such a whore for art! If it makes y'all feel any better, I've put less than a hundred miles on the bike since Thanksgiving, and that's prime riding time here in the desert! I'll make one of them, and I'm still looking forward to it. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <8107014.1115835278962.JavaMail.davidfitwe [at] mac.com> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 11:14:38 -0700 From: David Wetmore Subject: NJ not NY Sorry for the confusion folks, Yes the Voyager is going to be porting out of Cape Liberty, NJ not NY. I said NY because that is where we want to shop for stuff, and it is just a train away. Many thanks for all of the tips and addresses they will be very helpfull. David Wetmore Yoyager of the Seas Light Tech ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 14:36:44 -0400 From: Kevin Lee Allen Subject: Re: Maybe Moving to NJ - seeking advice on NJ/NYC area In-reply-to: Message-id: <526c24acea096ee942ddb0dbfe11c5b0 [at] klad.com> References: I live in NJ around Newark. feel free to reach out off list if this is=20= not enough info. I now live in Clifton which is adjacent to Montclair where we used to=20 live. montclair has a great reputation for schools, but I am not so=20 sure that it is justified. There is easy access to NYC. The taxes in=20 Montclair are very high, paying for Essex County and the schools. The=20 homes have become very expensive. I would try to avoid Essex County due to the taxes and corruption. In Clifton, the county taxes are lower, the property taxes are lower,=20 the municipal services are better, but the schools don't have the same=20= reputation? OTOH, the school websites seem to show great results. We live in the Montclair Heights Section of Clifton. I don't have kids, so the schools are all out of my world view. I would not suggest Newark, even though the Forest hills section is=20 very nice. There is a tax revaluation underway and the local government=20= seems very corrupt. Some places to Google: Rutherford Nutley South Orange Maplewood But I know North NJ better than Central NJ, check out Union County,=20 Middlesex On May 11, 2005, at 12:53 PM, MissWisc [at] aol.com wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see=20 > > --------------------------------------------------- > > If you were to live in/around Newark, where would you live and why?=20 > Any knowledge on schools (we have a 10 year old son), shopping,=20 > hospitals, etc.? > > Also - last spring around this time, I corresponded with someone about=20= > positions teching HS theatre in NYC. (Scott??) If anyone has any=20 > hints, connections, or tips as for teaching jobs (I've taught K-12=20 > choral/general music and theatre/speech)... please send them my way.=20= > THANKS!!! > > We are looking into the possibilities before we make a decision. Have=20= > to admit, living between Herrick and Unkle Bill does sound tempting! > > Kristi > > ----- Kevin Lee Allen Production Designer http://www.klad.com 973.744.6352.voice 201.280.3841.mobile klad [at] klad.com =F0 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 15:11:59 -0400 Subject: Re: Maybe Moving to NJ - seeking advice on NJ/NYC area From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Oh c'mon come live in Brooklyn where I just moved to! Bother Mr. Romaine about New Jersey he's around here somewhere. -H On 5/11/05 12:53 PM, "MissWisc [at] aol.com" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > If you were to live in/around Newark, where would you live and why? Any > knowledge on schools (we have a 10 year old son), shopping, hospitals, etc.? > > Also - last spring around this time, I corresponded with someone about > positions teching HS theatre in NYC. (Scott??) If anyone has any hints, > connections, or tips as for teaching jobs (I've taught K-12 choral/general > music and theatre/speech)... please send them my way. THANKS!!! > > We are looking into the possibilities before we make a decision. Have to > admit, living between Herrick and Unkle Bill does sound tempting! > > Kristi > -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Message-ID: <90d9c9980505111234ce0b1f4 [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 15:34:24 -0400 From: Scott Parker Reply-To: Scott Parker Subject: Re: Maybe Moving to NJ - seeking advice on NJ/NYC area In-Reply-To: References:

I vote for Brooklyn as well. Granted, I miss my native Greenwich VIllage. But, I have two trees, a lawn, garage and driveway now..... As for work, the NYC DOE is looking for tech teachers. Getting certified is the biggest hoop to jump through. Herrick, drop me a line off list: we'll compare notes. Later, Scott On 5/11/05, Herrick Goldman wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- >=20 > Oh c'mon come live in Brooklyn where I just moved to! > > -H > --=20 Take care, Scott Scott C. Parker ------------------------------ Message-ID: <3FBB59451418D511B53E00B0D0AADEBD98305A [at] pa-es1.arts.ucla.edu> From: "Muller, David" Subject: FW: Info LMI converters Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 15:29:27 -0700 Folks, I have an LMI converter model #RD 22-12 that has had it's control chip burned to operate a set of Kliegpac K96 control cards. So I will assume it is a DMX to AMX converter. 0 to 10volts Unfortunately this system has been out of service for several years and I apparently have lost one of the 5 pin to 4 pin converter cable or the one I do have is wired incorrectly . I've tried in vain to figure out what the pin config might have been, and now look to the wisdom of the list. Both male and female inputs into the converter are 4 pin XLR. Don't know why just is. I do have a 5 pin to 4 pin adapter for this that I think is the original adapter from the control board to the input of LMI convert. wired pin 1 DMX to Shield of the 4 pin pin 2 DMX to pin 2 of the 4 pin and pin 3 DMX to pin 1 of the 4 pin. Seem to get a flashing signal on D1 and D2 of the converter. There is both a 5 pin and a 4 pin XLR female for data out on the converter Dimmer rack #1 had the original control connector ( signal input) removed and a 5 pin wire with a 5 pin male XLR connector attached. This hard wired into the control card. If one was to make the assumption that the 5 pin XLR would then plug into the 5 pin data output. You would think all systems would be operationally, and yet the dimmer racks are not getting signal. Fuses all good, and it appears all the solder joints are good. I sort of recall that there was another 5 pin to 4 pin adapter that went between the output of the LMI converter and the 5 pin XLR on the rack. But can't find that particular adapter, and wonder why they would have wired the rack with a 5 pin instead of the 4 pin. Does anyone have any info regarding possible wire configs for the LMI converter? Perhaps it is only a matter of reconfiguring the adapter from the board to the input of the LMI Converter. Any suggestions on what I might try. thanks David Muller ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 19:12:10 -0400 From: Brian Munroe Reply-To: Brian Munroe Subject: Re: NJ not NY In-Reply-To: References: On 5/11/05, David Wetmore wrote: =20 > Sorry for the confusion folks, Yes the Voyager is going to be porting out= of Cape Liberty, NJ not NY. I said NY because that is where we want to sh= op for stuff, and it is just a train away. In that case Garden Hardware is a 15 minute walk or 2 subway stops from Penn Station, Barbizon a little bit further. It also makes you a member of the bridge and tunnel crowd, at least for a d= ay. Brian Munroe bpmunroe [at] gmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 19:12:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Boyd Ostroff Cc: bpmunroe [at] gmail.com (Brian Munroe) Subject: Re: NJ not NY In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References:

On Wed, 11 May 2005, Brian Munroe wrote: > It also makes you a member of the bridge and tunnel crowd "That's not the light at the end of the tunnel.... it's only New Jersey." | Boyd Ostroff | Director of Design and Technology | Opera Company of Philadelphia | http://tech.operaphilly.com | ostroff [at] operaphilly.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 19:22:20 -0400 From: Brian Munroe Reply-To: Brian Munroe Subject: Re: NJ not NY In-Reply-To: References:

On 5/11/05, Boyd Ostroff wrote: > "That's not the light at the end of the tunnel.... it's only New Jersey." >=20 "We are not in the Eighth Dimension. We are over New Jersey" Brian Munroe bpmunroe [at] gmail.com ------------------------------ From: "Andy Leviss" Subject: RE: Maybe Moving to NJ - seeking advice on NJ/NYC area Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 16:22:43 -0400 Organization: Duck's Echo Sound Message-ID: <001501c55667$32805aa0$a19afea9 [at] AndyLeviss> In-Reply-To: Kristi wrote: > If you were to live in/around Newark, where would you live > and why? Any knowledge on schools (we have a 10 year old > son), shopping, hospitals, etc.? How far do you consider in/around to be? If we're talking 30-45 min depending on traffic, that could take you down as far as Middlesex County, which is my neck of the woods (well, right now my neck of the woods is still whichever hotel the Muppets have me in this week, but...). I grew up in East Brunswick, which has a great school system (and trust me, they'll tell you over and over and over again--they rode high on Redbook naming them #1 and getting some Blue Ribbon award through most of my jr. high and high school career), and is near lots of theatre in New Brunswick and (about 25 min away) some in Princeton, as well as great hospitals in New Brunswick. Lots of supermarkets, etc., a mid-sized shopping mall right in East Brunswick and larger ones in Edison (Menlo Park, which is about 15 min away) and Woodbridge (20 min) and Princeton. NYC is about 45-90 minutes away depending on whether you drive (and how the traffic is) or take the train, with at least three or four viable options for train all within 15 minutes or so (into NYC you can get NJ Transit in Metuchen, New Brunswick, Edison, or at Metropark, and the latter is a major Amtrak stop for other destinations; NJ Transit goes directly into NYC or you can get off in Newark and transfer to the PATH to save a few bucks). Closer to Newark, my mother (who happens to be here visiting for a couple days) pipes in that West Orange is a great community to look at, too. I can't offer much detail on there, only having visited it when my grandmother lived there. --Andy http://OneFromTheRoad.com Tools, Toys, and Tales for the Theatrical Technician -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.8 - Release Date: 5/10/2005 ------------------------------ Message-ID: Reply-To: From: "Michael S. Eddy" Cc: dmuller [at] arts.ucla.edu ('Muller, David') Subject: RE: Info LMI converters Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 19:30:10 -0400 In-Reply-To: David Muller wrote, I have an LMI converter model #RD 22-12 that has had it's control chip burned to operate a set of Kliegpac K96 control cards. So I will assume it is a DMX to AMX converter. 0 to 10volts [No, wrong assumption.] Does anyone have any info regarding possible wire configs for the LMI converter? Perhaps it is only a matter of reconfiguring the adapter from the board to the input of the LMI Converter. David, ETC bought out LMI years ago and produced (they may still) the 2212 converter, so I would highly recommend calling ETC Tech Services to get the information that you need. If the 2212 is wired for Kliegl K96, it will not speak to AMX or 0 - 10V DC, both of which are not even close to K96 protocol. Here is the link to the manual in case that you do not have it. It is in PDF format: http://www.etcconnect.com/docs_downloads/manuals/rsp2212.pdf ETC Tech Services can be reached at 800/688-4116. Good luck, Michael Eddy Eddy Marketing & Consulting ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 21:58:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen Litterst Subject: Re: FW: Info LMI converters In-reply-to: Message-id: <2952.172.156.109.25.1115863129.squirrel [at] 172.156.109.25> References: > ---------------------------------------------------, > I have an LMI converter model #RD 22-12 that has had it's control chip > burned to operate a set of Kliegpac K96 control cards. So I will assume > it > is a DMX to AMX converter. 0 to 10volts > Perhaps it is only a matter of reconfiguring the adapter from the board to > the input of the LMI Converter. > Any suggestions on what I might try. Call Litetrol. If it's over five years old, they know how to use it, reprogram it, or fix it. 1-800-Lite-trol or www.litetrol.com Folks from there used to lurk on the list, I haven't seen them around in a while, though. Steve Litterst ------------------------------ From: "Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson" Subject: RE: Fall arrest harness Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 20:41:23 -0700 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: All the comments ring true ... but David Krajecs seems the closest. We conduct Fall protection classes and work with those who use bosun'chairs, and find DBA Sala and Mine Safety group some of the best. The list has noted the serious problems before of sitting too long in any device. The law suits I have been expert in indicate to me that one should seek professional advice from those companies that vend these devices and who have the expertise to speak to the pluses and minuses. Doom -- Dr. Randall W.A. Davidson, Risk International & Associates, Inc. - www.riskit.com Latest workshops for Educational and Entertainment Industry Performing Arts Personnel (Riggers, and Public Assembly and Educational Technicians) www.riskit.com/workshops International Secondary Education Theater Safety Association (ISETSA) - www.isetsa.org -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Bill Sapsis Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 3:00 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Fall arrest harness For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- OK. I've been on the road for a bit and have not had time to respond in detail, but now I can. A) Yes, Fall Arrest harnesses are designed ONLY for Fall Arrest. You cannot hang in one. It would be bad. B) Yes, there are many "combo" harnesses on the market that do double duty. Triple duty when you combine the rescue element. C) Yup. I sell them (no big surprise there) and am much more personable than Mr. Grainger. And I believe I know a bit more about our industry than the non-industry sources. (At least I should. Ya think?) Anyway, harnesses are really a personal choice item. There are many on the market so check around. Zat help? Bill S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile Please support the Long Reach Long Riders on their 2nd annual benefit ride http://sapsis-rigging.com/LRLR.html on 5/10/05 12:53 PM, David R. Krajec at drkrajec [at] stritch.edu wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Based upon my limited experience, a fall arrest harness is intended only for > that purpose. To prevent you from falling. I don't think that the > intention of the manufacturers of the device intended it for suspension > while working. There are probably other harness rigs for that. > > I Googled "suspension harness" and the first hit I got was > www.mytoolstore.com/klein/harness.htm. They have a Klein > Fall-Arrest/Suspension Harness with Bosun's Chair. They also have a > tree-trimmer's harness. Cool stuff! Thanks for sending me looking. > > David Krajec, Assoc. Professor - Theatre > Cardinal Stritch University > > "For the theater is a despot, a tyrant to whom you must be willing to pay > tribute with every breathing moment." > Antoinette Perry > > ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #394 *****************************